WILDGEESE
Gone Fishin'
The BAC 3-11 aircraft was a wide body design proposal in the Airbus A300 class with a standard seating capacity between 200 to 250 passengers.
Fitted with rear mounted Spey's, eventually leading to the fitting of a RB-211 variant, the design suffered from a in built designed "deep stall" problem from arising from the rear engine configuration.
With Hawker Siddeley proposing to join Airbus, the UK govt couldn't afford to give money to start up both proposals, so the 3-11 design was shelved.
What if, BAC re-designed it's proposal and went for a normal under wing engine configuration plus removing the T-tail thus negating the "deep stall" problem?
Then BAC went over to Douglas, later McDonnell Douglas an offered them a possible partnership possibly McD 70%- BAC 30% shares.? This would allow Douglas to market an aircraft to do battle with the upcoming Boeing 767.
I was thinking of the following versions with a start of deliveries around 1980.
Due to the 3-11 proposal getting airborne before the MD-11, I've given this aircraft the MD-11 designation. The original MD-11 will be called the MD-12, and as a consequence the MD-12 will be called the MD-14.
MD-11
100 Series 200-250 seats
200 Series 250-300 seats
300 series ER 200-250 seats
Possible further developments post 1980
KC-11 Tanker/Transport (for the USAF)
EC-11 AWAC's
Would all this be possible/
Regards filers
Fitted with rear mounted Spey's, eventually leading to the fitting of a RB-211 variant, the design suffered from a in built designed "deep stall" problem from arising from the rear engine configuration.
With Hawker Siddeley proposing to join Airbus, the UK govt couldn't afford to give money to start up both proposals, so the 3-11 design was shelved.
What if, BAC re-designed it's proposal and went for a normal under wing engine configuration plus removing the T-tail thus negating the "deep stall" problem?
Then BAC went over to Douglas, later McDonnell Douglas an offered them a possible partnership possibly McD 70%- BAC 30% shares.? This would allow Douglas to market an aircraft to do battle with the upcoming Boeing 767.
I was thinking of the following versions with a start of deliveries around 1980.
Due to the 3-11 proposal getting airborne before the MD-11, I've given this aircraft the MD-11 designation. The original MD-11 will be called the MD-12, and as a consequence the MD-12 will be called the MD-14.
MD-11
100 Series 200-250 seats
200 Series 250-300 seats
300 series ER 200-250 seats
Possible further developments post 1980
KC-11 Tanker/Transport (for the USAF)
EC-11 AWAC's
Would all this be possible/
Regards filers