WI: B-59 had fired back?

Didn't I read somewhere the destroyer men would wrap hand grenades in toilet paper? more paper the deeper it would go before exploding? Let the sub skipper know he was found without harming them.
That was pretty much the reason the captain was planning to nuke the destroyers, he had no real clue what was going on. The Political Officer agreed and again, the Flotilla Commander who in every novel would lose it, was the voice of reason and surfaced to await orders.
 

Genghis

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That was pretty much the reason the captain was planning to nuke the destroyers, he had no real clue what was going on. The Political Officer agreed and again, the Flotilla Commander who in every novel would lose it, was the voice of reason and surfaced to await orders.


honestly its interesting how such Imho prevented WWIII kinda like that Officer who realized that what Was displayed as USA nukes was just bug.
 
honestly its interesting how such Imho prevented WWIII kinda like that Officer who realized that what Was displayed as USA nukes was just bug.
I heard Reagan decided to go on a anti nuclear stance after watching a movie called the Day After which was sugar coating the horrors of nuclear war. Apparently he became disgusred with the people who argued such a war was winnable
 

Genghis

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I heard Reagan decided to go on a anti nuclear stance after watching a movie called the Day After which was sugar coating the horrors of nuclear war. Apparently he became disgusred with the people who argued such a war was winnable

The War might be winnable, But the cost is sometimes too big.
"Everything is possible its just that sometimes the cost of it is too high."
 
As I understand it the Soviets were aware the charges were "only" practice charges the issue was that due the way the American's were deploying them, (sprint in, drop, sprint out) and the way the destroyers were deployed, (sort of a three sided "box" with the Soviet sub somewhere in the middle, which is a very aggressive "hunter-killer" pattern) they were actually getting bracketed, (according to some accounts actually hit more than a couple times) fairly regularly which in general was assumed to be a pointed way of saying "surface now or be destroyed" as in the NEXT time would be the real thing. Hence the nerves on-board were pretty frayed. My understanding was the decision was very much not "shoot-or-don't" but one of "the American's are going to destroy us, so the question is do we take them with us or just let them kill us?" which puts a different context on things.

Launching even a normal torpedo under the circumstances would get them killed no matter what, launching a nuclear warhead they had a high chance of at least taking out the destroyers as revenge.
Randy

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The Soviet navy consider (according my germans sources) dropping charges as act of War against there Submarines, in this case the Nuclear Torpedo had to make ready and fired als last resort.
but there was also alternative use for Nuclear torpedo,
Soviet Submarine with Nuclear torpedo on board and not used it against US or Nato Navy, had order to Attack enemy Harbor with it.
Then return to secret base like Balaklava and Severomorsk get reload with more Nuclear torpedos and attack enemy sea coast sites or there remaining Fleet

There is interesting Movie about this theme, i recommend to see.
The Bedford Incident
 
The Bedford Incident was an intense movie. Egos, emotions, and encounters all leading to doom.
 
I heard Reagan decided to go on a anti nuclear stance after watching a movie called the Day After which was sugar coating the horrors of nuclear war. Apparently he became disgusred with the people who argued such a war was winnable

After 1968, there was no winning a nuclear exchange, and no one, US or USSR, thought so. It was all on making sure the other side wouldn't survive.
 
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