WI: Australia had ten colonies?

It is positioned at its inverted latitude (though not its correct antipode) to give people an impression of the Australian climate and day lengths. It's not a bloody difficult concept.

I agree, what is so confusing about this....

as to the divisions...if they did they would remain terr. for the most part...and never actually become total states at the federal level...they might even be amalgamated to create a larger territory and for simplicity of govt. but remain distinct districts....

Guelphia will still divide in two for pretty much the same reasons it was hived off in OTL so you will have a North and South component for the most part.

Perhaps 6 or 7 full states eventually with 1 or2 territories in the North NorthWest. Nuytsland has got to be amalgamated at some point with Flindersland (Flinderia anyone) to the East or Victoria to the West.
 
Well, assuming OTL population distributions:

Guelphia alone would have 56% of Australia's 23 million people. Assuming an OTL senate system where all states are equally represented, that's 56% of the population with only 10% of the population:p. So it would either need a different political structure, or mean serious discontent among Guelphians and possibly dissolution of the federation(assuming one even forms).

You mean MPs, yes? Because the whole point of the senate arrangement is to ignore population differences.


I don't think that the population would flow the same. But even still in the US Virginia had a huge population comparatively and they still joined the union. So Geulphia might.
 

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People on here are too young if they don't "get" map concepts that were still being used on school atlases as late as the 1970s.

Anyway, the problem with this idea is that it's basically drawing lines on a map ignoring whether those colonies would actually be able to support any sizeable number of people or not.

I do like the use of the name Guelphia though (you see Guelph as a name in Canada sometimes). It's a Frenchified version of Welf, the original name of the House of Hanover.
 
Guelphia is a great name I agree.

I like some of theoriginal NZ province names - New Ulster, New Munster and New Leinster. So original! Imagine living in the town of Newton, in the of province of New Ulster, in New Zealand. That sir, is too much news
 
Guelphia is a great name I agree.

I like some of theoriginal NZ province names - New Ulster, New Munster and New Leinster. So original! Imagine living in the town of Newton, in the of province of New Ulster, in New Zealand. That sir, is too much news

Given the fact that it is called New Zealand, wouldn't New Walcheren, New North Beveland, New South Beveland, New Schouwen-Duiveland and New Tholen have been more appropriate, since that (obviously without that 'New'-part) are the names of the Islands of Zeeland:)?

Regarding Ten colonies, this could happen, but it would have to mean that the most densily populated colonies (like New South Wales and Victoria) are split in smaller colonies.
 
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Given the fact that it is called New Zealand, wouldn't New Walcheren, New North Beveland, New South Beveland, New Schouwen-Duiveland and New Tholen have been more appropriate, since that are the names of the Islands of Zeeland:)?

Regarding Ten colonies, this could happen, but it would have to mean that the most densily populated colonies (like New South Wales and Victoria) are split in smaller colonies.

Well, for the sake of consistency, you are indeed right. Sadly I fear the British colonialists were unlikely to embrace such a position. Now if you could somehow arrange yet another Anglo-Dutch union, that would be different!

On a related note it would have been interesting to see larger scale early Dutch migration to NZ. The major bout of Dutch migration to NZ (so far as I recall) has been post WW2 and went some way to revitalising the Dairy industry in the country
 
Guelphia is a great name I agree.

I like some of theoriginal NZ province names - New Ulster, New Munster and New Leinster. So original! Imagine living in the town of Newton, in the of province of New Ulster, in New Zealand. That sir, is too much news

Not so much as "Auckland Province". :rolleyes:

And I agree with the Aussies - that map will get reorganized soon, pobably as 8 States, with the possibility of adding PNG as a State. :p
 
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