WI: Arthur and Henry Tudor die, Edmund lives

What about marrying her to Sigismund the Old.
Very unlikely. Sigismund would get Polish and Lithuanian thrones in 1506, quite lat for CoA. His brother Vladislaus is more likely. Kingdom of Hungary is close to Trastamara Naples and Vladislaus could look for support of Catholic Monarchs for anti-Ottoman crusade.
 
Very unlikely. Sigismund would get Polish and Lithuanian thrones in 1506, quite lat for CoA. His brother Vladislaus is more likely. Kingdom of Hungary is close to Trastamara Naples and Vladislaus could look for support of Catholic Monarchs for anti-Ottoman crusade.

Catalina as queen of Hungary could be fun. Replacement for Anne de Foix? Or as a successor to her? And might Vlad manage at least one more kid (a son)? Catalina as regent for Lajos could be fun
 
Catalina as queen of Hungary could be fun. Replacement for Anne de Foix? Or as a successor to her? And might Vlad manage at least one more kid (a son)? Catalina as regent for Lajos could be fun
Rather replacement, as successor of Anne. After Anne's death Vladislaus was depressed and unwilling to remarry.
 
Another monarch who is available - saw this in one TL where her eldest sister lives and thus Maria was married to Christian II of Denmark - could be James IV of Scots (if Henry follows Arthur to the grave before Margaret Tudor weds him.

Marge of course is then left without a chair, although a Danish match (if Catalina's not using it) could be attempted. I never DID understand why Christian II wasn't married off earlier.

Rather replacement, as successor of Anne. After Anne's death Vladislaus was depressed and unwilling to remarry.

So no idiot Lajos then? And the possibility of more than one son for Vlad, since even as an older than normal bride, Catalina still managed 6 pregnancies. Here we've possibly removed her worst religious tendencies to fasting and kneeling on cold stone floors and other deprivations.
 
Something to consider though is the fact that H7 will likely be looking for a bride himself if EoY dies after trying for another child. Both the Prince of Wales and Duke of York are dead. Leaving little Edmund as Prince of Wales. In the wake of his losses I don't think Henry will be confident in the survival of his youngest son. So he'd be keen on marrying Katherine himself. Or he'd go searching for a bride in France if Ferdinand were to refuse him Katherine.
 
Something to consider though is the fact that H7 will likely be looking for a bride himself if EoY dies after trying for another child. Both the Prince of Wales and Duke of York are dead. Leaving little Edmund as Prince of Wales. In the wake of his losses I don't think Henry will be confident in the survival of his youngest son. So he'd be keen on marrying Katherine himself. Or he'd go searching for a bride in France if Ferdinand were to refuse him Katherine.
France hardly have anyone to offer. When Louis XII attempted to make anti-Habsburg alliance with Jagiellons he offered them Germaine de Foix (his niece) and Anne de Foix (firts cousin of Queen Anne of Brittany). So it seems, that Foix girls are most likely candidates if H7 looks for wife in France.
 
Something to consider though is the fact that H7 will likely be looking for a bride himself if EoY dies after trying for another child. Both the Prince of Wales and Duke of York are dead. Leaving little Edmund as Prince of Wales. In the wake of his losses I don't think Henry will be confident in the survival of his youngest son. So he'd be keen on marrying Katherine himself. Or he'd go searching for a bride in France if Ferdinand were to refuse him Katherine.
The possible wife if Germaine and foix candale is not available is anne of navarre.


H7 can marry Margaret of Austria or Juana of Naples in lieu of Catherine.
 
Very unlikely. Sigismund would get Polish and Lithuanian thrones in 1506, quite lat for CoA. His brother Vladislaus is more likely. Kingdom of Hungary is close to Trastamara Naples and Vladislaus could look for support of Catholic Monarchs for anti-Ottoman crusade.

Something to consider though is the fact that H7 will likely be looking for a bride himself if EoY dies after trying for another child. Both the Prince of Wales and Duke of York are dead. Leaving little Edmund as Prince of Wales. In the wake of his losses I don't think Henry will be confident in the survival of his youngest son. So he'd be keen on marrying Katherine himself. Or he'd go searching for a bride in France if Ferdinand were to refuse him Katherine.

France hardly have anyone to offer. When Louis XII attempted to make anti-Habsburg alliance with Jagiellons he offered them Germaine de Foix (his niece) and Anne de Foix (first cousin of Queen Anne of Brittany). So it seems, that Foix girls are most likely candidates if H7 looks for wife in France.

Well here we are talking about a death of Henry, Prince of Wales around the same time/a little later than the one of Isabella of Castile so 1506/1507. So Vladislaus would have already married and Anne and be widowed by her and Sigismund would be already King. Plus Ferdinand of Aragon would be already in talking for marrying Germaine. In this scenario an Henry VII-Katherine of Aragon wedding make sense and fit perfectly..
Margaret of Austria would never remarry plus was a childless twice widowed who likely was make sterile by the stillbirth of her only child, Anne of Navarre is still a little too young (she is born only in 1492) for Henry VII...
Plus Ferdinand will need to keep Henry at least in the middle between himself and Philip and Juana and considering who Edmund, Prince of Wales is already engaged to Eleanor of Brittany...
Plus Margaret of England has already married James IV of Scotland a couple of years before the younger Henry’s death...
 
Top