WI Animated John Carter + No Wizard of Oz

[John Fredrick Parker]

Supposing the following two things happened:
1) Bob Clampett gets the green light to make a feature length animated adaptation of Princess of Mars, which is released as John Carter of Mars in 1938 (an idea previously discussed here)
2) Actors on the set of The Wizard of Oz are more seriously injured than OTL, killing the production (discussed here)

Also, WWII still essentially plays out as OTL. What are the effects on pop culture in the 1940's? Beyond? Does Science Fiction do better as a genre earlier? Does animation avoid the "children's age ghetto"? For that matter, how are children's/family films in general affected? And how do these effects ripple from there?

 

[Emperor Norton I]

It shouldn't be titled "John Carter". That was an asinine decision by Disney that should not have been done, and the 30s wouldn't have a problem with the "Princess of Mars" or "John Carter of Mars" title.

 

[Mad Bad Rabbit]

There'd be no "Zardoz", which might help Sean Connery's post-Bond career. OTOH there'd be no "The Wiz" or "Wicked".

 

[vultan]

Check out this thread for some thoughts.

 

[Mad Bad Rabbit]

There'd be no "Zardoz",

which might free Boorman to make a (likely VERY bad) "Lord of the Rings" in the 1970s ...

 

[zert]

It would be interesting if it was made. If it did well then we might see some sequels made, though they would have to have scenes edited due to some of the nature of the books.

Too bad they did not make the movie an animated one rather than the bile that the OTL movie was. That might have held up better and performed at the box office with increased revenues.

 

[Orville_third]

I might have had less chance of knowing Meinhardt Raabe was in CAP. After all, the Munchkin Coroner is more famous than "Little Oscar" of Oscar Meyer.

 

[ramones1986]

No "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" and Judy Garland's career took a very different way.

 

[David S Poepoe]

Given the status of Wizard of Oz it would eventually be made into a film. What was not mentioned in the previous thread was that Oz had existed as stage musicals in the early 1900s, few of which were very popular and hardly performed since.

The Disney Company apparently did try to do a musical Oz book adaptation, 'The Rainbow Bridge to Oz' which didn't make it past a few numbers performed by Mouseketers in front of Walt.

 

[John Fredrick Parker]

Any thoughts on the shorter term pop culture effects? Would sci-fi movies be bigger in the 1940's, for example?

 

[zert]

Any thoughts on the shorter term pop culture effects? Would sci-fi movies be bigger in the 1940's, for example?

It is possible, but I could see more adult oriented animation becoming mainstream.

 

[John Fredrick Parker]

It is possible, but I could see more adult oriented animation becoming mainstream.

That would be something. Does anyone have an idea what some other adult oriented early animated films (pre-1945) could be?

 

[Michel Van]

There'd be no "Zardoz", which might help Sean Connery's post-Bond career. OTOH there'd be no "The Wiz" or "Wicked".

the Movie "Wizard of OZ" based on the Book "The Wonderful Wizard of Oz"
That book play a important role in Zardoz, not the Judy Garland Movie !

"the Wiz" could be Musical adaptation "The Wonderful Wizard of Oz" book.
some one will make a movie out that book soon or later, even if MGM production "dies"

 

[ANARCHY_4_ALL]

I know you've discussed this before JFP and it is a great idea. I don't understand why everyone hated OTL's John Carter of Mars, I was very impressed that it was a Disney film. 100's of Martians died in the first 10 mins. But anyway I just got the Martian Chronicles last night.