WI An Ancient Bloodline Is Discovered

since none of Jesus's descendents are demigods (or are they, considering the amount of miracles attributed to various saints?)
Which would raise the question of Divinity vs. paranormal activities linked to a (most probably) recessive gene. But miraculous intervention has a long history in Judeo-Christian religion prior to the arrival of Jesus. Miracles were reportedly performed by Moses, Elijah and Elisha to name but three, none of whom made any claim to Divine status. Also, in either case, the descendants of Jesus would have to be remarkably fecund and widespread. Reports of miracles on every continent and subcontinent and among virtually every racial grouping.
 
Which would raise the question of Divinity vs. paranormal activities linked to a (most probably) recessive gene. But miraculous intervention has a long history in Judeo-Christian religion prior to the arrival of Jesus. Miracles were reportedly performed by Moses, Elijah and Elisha to name but three, none of whom made any claim to Divine status. Also, in either case, the descendants of Jesus would have to be remarkably fecund and widespread. Reports of miracles on every continent and subcontinent and among virtually every racial grouping.

There wasn't really a concept of paranormal back then. People attributed supernatural things and events to divine figures and people acting on their behalf. Look at the swoon theory which attributes Jesus's resurrection to natural causes, which suggests that if you tried hard enough, you can explain every miracle to natural phenonema which people have exagerrated.

We don't need all miracles everywhere to be evidence of Jesus, we just need evidence of Jesus's bloodline being more favoured than others. Perhaps they are, since the Merovingians are according to one (almost certainly false) story descendents of Jesus. I think more monarchs would claim descent from Jesus (which incidentally also means claiming yourself as the Messiah, or at least his successor, not that the vast majority of Jews would accept you as such) if Gnostic-esque beliefs of Jesus being married were more accepted and widespread, and that takes an a 1st century POD (and possibly one in the lifetime of the historical Jesus if indeed Yeshua bar Yosef wasn't married).

The idea of a Jesus bloodline would fit very well into Greco-Roman religion with its many legends of offspring of unions of gods and mortals. It would fit so well it would detract from the idea of Jesus as the Messiah.
 
The idea of a Jesus bloodline would fit very well into Greco-Roman religion with its many legends of offspring of unions of gods and mortals. It would fit so well it would detract from the idea of Jesus as the Messiah.
I meant now as opposed to back then re the paranormal. But on the other point, that is the paradox. Being a descendant of Jesus would be special because of the Divine status. But the whole concept of a tail of descendants either reduces/modifies that status or else is irrelevant in that they are descendants of the man and not the God.
 
I meant now as opposed to back then re the paranormal. But on the other point, that is the paradox. Being a descendant of Jesus would be special because of the Divine status. But the whole concept of a tail of descendants either reduces/modifies that status or else is irrelevant in that they are descendants of the man and not the God.

But you can think of it as your ancestor (Yeshua bar Yosef) was chosen by God to be His Son and also the same person. So descendents of Yeshua bar Yosef are obviously inheritors of an incredible man--it's far greater than being descended from great figures of Antiquity like Alexander the Great, Julius Caesar, etc., since you're descended from the man who was at the same time divine. Even the fact that being descended from Yeshua bar Yosef means you're descended from King David would just be a side note from the fact you're Jesus's descendent.
 
Well Julius C and Alexander also claimed to be divine but I take your point. But what would be the practical relevance? Might give one a sense of family pride but does it have any bearing on one's career or influence? Might improve marriage prospects and social status I suppose. As a wonderful example of social snobbery I always enjoyed the French bishop who pointed out that "Jesus Christ was not only the Son of God, He also came from a very good family on his mother's side"
 

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Not true, Adam and Eve are not descendents of God. Adam is just dirt God breathed "life" into and Eve is just Adam's rib formed into a human being.

Explain that to the kings and aristocrats who claim to be descended from God/Gods, not me. They are the ones that drew up the family trees that culminated in descent from God, or Jesus or whomever - Jesus had no children, but it didn't stop them!
 
Explain that to the kings and aristocrats who claim to be descended from God/Gods, not me. They are the ones that drew up the family trees that culminated in descent from God, or Jesus or whomever - Jesus had no children, but it didn't stop them!

I think it was implied that when you're descended from Adam, you're descended from the guy God made by breathing life into dust who was the first human, not God himself. And Adam and Eve sinned ("in Adam's fall we sinned all" goes a famous verse), yet God's son Jesus never sinned. Also, remember that Odin/Woden who the British monarchy claims descent from was since the Christianisation of England considered just a great king and not the Allfather Odin himself as is recounted by the Norse Sagas and other sources of Germanic Heathen belief.

Officially, Jesus had no children, but we can take a POD after his crucifixion and get a tradition which claims he did have descendents.
 
How did this get to Jesus?! Though for the record, Hail Wöden!
So potentially we are just looking at Tony Robinson spending a few weeks with yet another "celebrity". As long as it ain't taken up by MTV I think we will alright then.
 
By now most of the population of Eurasia and the Americas have common ancestry in some greater or lesser degree of one, some or all of the prime religious figures of the major world religions. Even going back less far I can reasonably claim to be a descendant of Charlemagne just by being Western European, even if my ancestors did descend from the yeomanry into the peasantry in the 14th century.
 
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