WI America never enters WWII

Here is where you go wrong. The only reason Japan invaded SEA at that time was oil. Did they want to build the Great Co-Prosperity Sphere? Sure but not until the China Incident was over. With US oil the Japanese have no reason to go South or North.

They had it yes, but do you think they'd want to be dependent on a Western Power forever? They'd invade the East Indies and Malaysia for the same reason they took Manchuria and China. Resources and power. With the oil, they might wait until China is consolidated sure, but with Britain busy in it's front yard, could the oppurtunity to take their back yard be overlooked? The same even more so with the Netherlands.
 

HJ Tulp

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They had it yes, but do you think they'd want to be dependent on a Western Power forever? They'd invade the East Indies and Malaysia for the same reason they took Manchuria and China. Resources and power. With the oil, they might wait until China is consolidated sure, but with Britain busy in it's front yard, could the oppurtunity to take their back yard be overlooked? The same even more so with the Netherlands.

An attack on SEA would most certainly risk their (reasonably) good relations with the US. A war against the Allies would certainly be on the table for Japan but certainly not before the war in China has ended, which is something that would take quite some time regardless.
 
A Republican in the White House would mean no Oil Embargo against Japan, so they have no reason to go to war with the US, and an isolationalist president would certainly go out of his way to avoid them having any reason to go to war. So trade would continue.
Don't be so sure. A Republican, being pro-business (unless I'm wrong...) would be very disinclined to allow Japan to potentially deny the U.S. access to the biggest consumer market in the world, Sinophile or no Sinophile. The total embargo might not happen (& BTW, FDR didn't intend it to be total), but it would probably still happen. In fact, with less invested in trying to get into war with Germany (which was, despite the Pearl Harbor conspiracy loons' claims, FDR's main objective), a GOP Pres might be more inclined to tell Japan where to get off...& we're back to Hitler being a maniac & pulling the 2d most ill-advised DoW of the century (after attacking Pearl Harbor).
Japan...still probably go South.
Did you not read what I said about seperability? Absent knowing the IJA-IJN interservice issues, saying what would happen with any confidence is up there with picking a date for Hitler winning the war, or naming H.P. Lovecraft President.
Breaking Australia and New Zealand from the British Empire would be much more productive.
:confused: Do you honestly expect them to surrender to Japan, or what? And how, exactly, will Japan achieve this?
A Republican President means no Lend-Lease. Britain...probably can't sustain the the war effort much longer without help.
OK, so what does HMG do about it? Scale back the bomber offensive? Cancel it? Ask Free France for more help? (There were still colonial territories...) Ask for greater efforts from Canada, Oz, NZ, India, SAfr? (I confess, I don't know how close to their financial, production, or manpower limits they were.)
Now, Japan will stay out of the war, as per their neutrality pact
and a slice of Eastern Russia for Japan could happen
I'd love to see your explanation for how those 2 mutually contradictory outcomes can happen.
China, Australia and India are enough to keep the island empire busy.
Do I take from that you believe Japan was going to invade Australia? LOL. ASB. IJA had neither the manpower nor the shipping to attempt it in their wildest dreams.
has to get his army across the Volga, which is held by the Red Army.
Uh, it's only, what, 40mi away? That's about a week's advance. Given Red Army hasn't the MT to counteratack & trap von Paulus, which prewar MT production might still allow.
negotiated peace. If he's actually capable of doing this.
I deeply doubt it. And considering how brutal the Germans were to the Russians, I'm equally doubtful Stalin would agree before Hell was colder than Novosibirsk. He might lose, but he wouldn't quit. I have a hunch most Russians would have agreed with him: better to die on our feet than live in chains. So long as Russia is fighting, Britain has some chance of Hitler making a stupid decision & DoW the U.S. Presuming he hasn't already, over Japan...
Spain would probably get Gibraltar.
When did Spain join the Axis?
in exchange for Australia and New Zealand's independence.
"independence"? When did the Klingons arrive to help IJA with the conquest? "He's dead, Jim."
India and Pakastan may remain British for a time
Uhhh, it's Pakistan. And Pakistan didn't even exist yet...
 
Malta falls and Rommel reaches Cairo. Britain loses territory to Japan including Malaya. The U boats bring Britain to the verge of starvation and the money runs out resulting in Britain seeking peace. Churchill is deposed and either a vichy regime takes over or Britain is allowed to remain independent provided it plays no role in Europe. Britain becomes bogged down in a war to hold on to India.

The United States makes it clear that that Canada will remain free from German influence. The war on the Eastern front continues with the German Army reaching a stalemate. An independent Ukraine is established and eventually accomodation is reached with Russia with a border further East.

Unilke Soviet Russia, Nazi Germany is aggresive and expansionist and a cold war with the United States ensues as in Operation Proteus and Fatherland. Ultimately there is a nuclear exchange
 

HJ Tulp

Donor
Malta falls and Rommel reaches Cairo. Britain loses territory to Japan including Malaya. The U boats bring Britain to the verge of starvation and the money runs out resulting in Britain seeking peace. Churchill is deposed and either a vichy regime takes over or Britain is allowed to remain independent provided it plays no role in Europe. Britain becomes bogged down in a war to hold on to India.

The United States makes it clear that that Canada will remain free from German influence. The war on the Eastern front continues with the German Army reaching a stalemate. An independent Ukraine is established and eventually accomodation is reached with Russia with a border further East.

Unilke Soviet Russia, Nazi Germany is aggresive and expansionist and a cold war with the United States ensues as in Operation Proteus and Fatherland. Ultimately there is a nuclear exchange

No. No.No.NO.NO.
 
Okay, I'm seeing...

1940: Robert Taft becomes President; FDR doesn't run for re-election, perhaps after a scandal of some kind. Oil and materials sales to Japan continue.

1941: Germany attacks the Soviet Union, German offensives stall outside Moscow, but much of the Red Army is captured in massive cauldron battles. DAK sent to Africa.

1942: Germany manages to grab Stalingrad, is forced to withdraw under a Soviet Counter-Attack, but there is no massive encirclement because the Red Army doesn't have enough motorized forces to cut off the lines. The DAK is halted and reversed at El Alamein. The UK starts throwing additional forces into North Africa.

1943: Unlike OTL, Germany in 1943 is able to launch a wide scale offensives further and further in Soviet Territory, because the Soviets are struggling to supply enough guns and vehicles for their war effort. The German push, this time against Moscow, finally causes Leningrad to collapse, leading to a series of advantages that lead to a German encirclement around Moscow itself. Moscow will get relieved in the 1943 Winter offensive, but the decision to evacuate Moscow's military complex--while probably a good solution to an inability to get resources and it avoids disaster later in the war--means that Germany badly outproduces the Soviets. In the South, Germany has managed to retake Stalingrad.

German reinforcements to Tunisia are sufficient to not only stop Monty's advance, they allow nothing less than a German drive back into Libya.

1944: The Soviets begin to break. Outproduced and still getting encircled by German Panzers, Germany once again attempts to place Moscow under siege. In the south, a German drive from Stalingrad to Baku fails to acquire Soviet Oil (The rigs have been destroyed) but there is no longer a good avenue for a Soviet Counterattack. Sixth Army, given orders to hold these positions, simply waits for an attack that never comes. Moscow falls--although this means less than might be assumed. Factories on the Volga Bend cities and the Transurals behind them continue to produce war materials--but just not enough of them. With Malta falling earlier in the year, Rommel reaches Suez. Robert Taft is re-elected.

1945: Oil starts flowing from Baku. The Soviets continue to fight on, but they can not hope to stop the German advance. Still, German cruelty has led them to recognize that surrender is still worse than a hopeless war. The DAK stalls in Jordan.

1946: The UK's Tube Alloys Project begins to show some interesting results... Meanwhile, forces from India and additional ANZACs, while leaving the Pacific vulnerable, stop the German drive on Damascus and roll Germany back into Egypt. Driving through Israel, the UK discovers evidence of mass executions from the German SS. The German Wehrmacht reaches the Volga Bend and its cities--but once again, the Industry has been evacuated; much of it, actually, has been destroyed to prevent capture.

1947: The UK successfully tests a nuclear bomb in remote northern Canada. Germany's ambitions to roll the Red Army behind a permanent line are recognized--and at long last, the German army is on this line. Hitler Dies of liver failure. Stalin refuses to consider peace, but the Red Army has little power to resist. Berlin and Munich are destroyed by nuclear weapons--the UK demands Germany return to its 1936 borders.
 
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