WI: America Fails To Get The West Coast?

Let's face it- OTL has been a bit of a US wank since the louisiana purchase. The continental US has everything the european powers scrambled Africa to get, and a cleaner way to china. The mississippi basin alone probably would've made us a world power off sheer agriculture, but still we trecked west, undeterred by the geography or people.

But what if the US failed to lay claim to a pacific coast? Perhaps russia populates alaska more, or Britain colonizes Oregon earlier than otl for that clean route to china?
 
It takes a PoD no later than 1815 to keep Mexico strong and Britain strong enough to keep the entire Oregon Territory. Because even if the Oregon Territory is British, the US can just grab all or most of California from Mexico. This means Mexico needs to be stronger to avoid losing California or alternatively Sonora down to at least Guaymas.
 
The problem--even if Mexico is able to hold on to California or more plausibly if the latter becomes independent--is that the British were perfectly willing to let the US have the Oregon country south of the Columbia. (The sticking point for decades was whether you follow the 49th parallel all the way to the Pacific or only to the Columbia, with the border then following that river to the Pacific.)
 
New Albion-I have a few British colonies based on earlier competition with sea otter trade with China, an ARW which resulted in the conquest of Quebec, Loyalist settlement on the west coast leading to earlier gold rush and greater British investment, plus butterflying away French Revolution leaving Spain still in charge of Spanish America, and west coast divided between Britain and Spain- all from one POD.
 

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Well if the British captured California, or managed to acquire the bear flag republic of California before the US got there,
Maybe the border with British Columbia to the Columbia the US still has a pacific but a greatly reduced one, maybe WWI the US looses Oregon and thus it's pacific access.
 
This is pretty contrived, but I recently had an idea for a timeline in which the Leclerc expedition meets a storm and shipwrecks all the way at New Orleans in 1801, kicking off a series of events that keep Napoleon's troops busy in the continent. In order to de-escalate any political crisis with the US they might just sell New Orleans to them, and Jefferson would likely agree since purchasing all of Louisiana was very controversial back in the day. The troops might then take administrative control of the Lousiana Territory, and, as soon as it became clear Nappy was gonna lose, conveniently declare independence. What happens from there would be anyone's guess, and the US might just slowly invade it, but Murica wasn't yet a military powerhouse back then so it might stick around, which would certainly be interesting.
 
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Well if the British captured California, or managed to acquire the bear flag republic of California before the US got there,
Maybe the border with British Columbia to the Columbia the US still has a pacific but a greatly reduced one, maybe WWI the US looses Oregon and thus it's pacific access.
I'd find it hard to believe the US would permanently lose Oregon in this scenario. British California would work (maybe a local uprising like other uprisings in Mexico and then British protectorate?) but that means weak Mexico and that means the US can get sea access through Sonora instead (whether they will choose to is another question). Maybe even grab Baja California too. Sonora and Baja California would get a lot of the investment and migration California did OTL so not necessarily a weaker US. Same with Oregon (and by extension Idaho since its the route to Oregon), it would get much more investment if its the only outlet to the Pacific Coast.

Even lacking the Southwest would still give the US enough resources and economic strength to fight the British to a standstill at worst in an alt-Great War.
 
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