WI: Alt "Turner Diaries" for different ideologies.

What would a black supremacist "Turner Diaries" look like and would it have as much influence as the RL one? Neo-imperial Japanese, Hinduvata, Ultr-Zionist, National Bolsheviks, Christian dominionist.
 
I think there was a timeline that included an in-universe text which was pretty much a communist Turner Diaries.

Jack London's Iron Heel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Iron_Heel) has significant parallels to Turner Diaries in being an in-universe autobiography of a "martyr" for the socialist revolution. It is highly probable that London's novel inspired the later work given many white nationalists admire London despite his socialism due to his views on race and natural struggle.
 
The Camp Of The Saints is sort of the eurotrash version of paranoid right-wing dystopia, centred around immigration, and dating from a few years before TTD. I've only read a few pages of the English translation, but it's pretty hilarious. There's a scene at the beginning where an old Catholic aristocrat argues with(and subsequently murders) some supposedly typical hippie who hates western civilization, and the cliched portrayal of the hippie makes this look like documentary realism.
 
Ultr-Zionist

I'm trying to imagine what the equivalent to the Zionist Occupational Government would be in an ultra-zionist right-wing dystopia.

Mind you, Netanyahu lately has been following other reactionaires in sounding off against the "globalist" George Soros, so maybe there's some room for overlap there. A cabal of secular, liberal Jews, led by Soros and Steven Spielberg, headquartered in cosmopolitan Tel Aviv, and dedicated to forcing racial suicide on Israel via forced conjugation with the arabs?
 
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Didn't the unibomber write basically the technophobic hippie equivalent?

As for others...

Have Louis Farrakhan go even further off the deep end, or give the Nuwabieans more appeal, and write the black nationalist/nation of Islam equivalent. White people are mutants under the thrall of the Jews, while Black Africans have secretly been behind all of society's advancements and civilizations greatest achievements, and violent revolution and race war, against the white man and his Jewish masters, is the only way to set things right again.

Boom, you've got the Black answer to the Turner Dairies, same raving anti-Semitic and conspiracy theories, now with black people killing all the white people instead and "We WUZ KINGS" instead of "Fourth Reich", and killing "Uncle Toms" instead of "race traitors".
 
Didn't the unibomber write basically the technophobic hippie equivalent?

The Industrial Revolution and It's Consequences isn't similar to the Turner Diaries, at least if that's what you are referring to. More like a rambling manifesto. I've read parts of it and it's not at all narrative involved, just his equivalent to Mao's Red Book or Max Stirner's Egotist stuff.
 
The Ultra-Zionist version is basically a certain reading of the Tanakh where you substitute "Arab" or "Palestinian" for "Canaanite" or "Amorite".
 
Victoria: A Novel of Fourth Generation Warfare by William Lind seems to fit.

It's...interesting. There's a whole SpaceBattles on it, its disgusting politics, and its Mary Sue characters, but all you need to know is that the good guys in the first scene of the book burn an innocent woman alive for being an Anglican priest, on the grounds that only men can be priests.

These sterling heroes beloved by the author proceed to sympathize with Nazis, treat black people in awful ways, LARP as the Kaiserreich, and go against comical strawmen of William Lind's political enemies, those being Evil Techno Women Who Nonetheless Are Completely Incompetent Due To Being Women, Crazy Green Hippie Stalinists, Multicultural Liberals Who Make Gangs Into Armies in the Name of "Tolerance", and so on.

The brutality that Lind's beloved heroes enact against literally every other minority group, and the book's judgment of all of them as being disgusting and worthy of death or (in one notable case) sexual slavery, honestly makes you wonder about Lind's ethics.

I see it as a Turner Diaries for what Lind calls "retroculture".
 
What would a black supremacist "Turner Diaries" look like and would it have as much influence as the RL one? Neo-imperial Japanese, Hinduvata, Ultr-Zionist, National Bolsheviks, Christian dominionist.

Neo-Imperial Japanese: A megavirus crested by unit 731 is unleashed into China, Korea and US and results in most of the world being destroyed except for Japan
Ultra-Zionist: Something like camp of the saints where there’s a massive Arab Neo caliphate invasion into Israel under the guise of Palestinian rights. In the end all Muslim states are completely nukes and Israel dominates the entire Middle East
Christian Dominionist: Same as Left Behind except 99% of humanity that dosent fit into the author’s definition of Christianity is thrown into the lake of fire and the 0.01% that does fit gets to go to heaven

I’m gonna have to take a shower now....
 
Victoria: A Novel of Fourth Generation Warfare by William Lind seems to fit.

It's...interesting. There's a whole SpaceBattles on it, its disgusting politics, and its Mary Sue characters, but all you need to know is that the good guys in the first scene of the book burn an innocent woman alive for being an Anglican priest, on the grounds that only men can be priests.

These sterling heroes beloved by the author proceed to sympathize with Nazis, treat black people in awful ways, LARP as the Kaiserreich, and go against comical strawmen of William Lind's political enemies, those being Evil Techno Women Who Nonetheless Are Completely Incompetent Due To Being Women, Crazy Green Hippie Stalinists, Multicultural Liberals Who Make Gangs Into Armies in the Name of "Tolerance", and so on.

The brutality that Lind's beloved heroes enact against literally every other minority group, and the book's judgment of all of them as being disgusting and worthy of death or (in one notable case) sexual slavery, honestly makes you wonder about Lind's ethics.

I see it as a Turner Diaries for what Lind calls "retroculture".

You don't have to wonder at all, the guy was behind the 'cultural Marxism' conspiracy theory and 'fourth generation warfare'.
 
Victoria: A Novel of Fourth Generation Warfare by William Lind seems to fit.

It's...interesting. There's a whole SpaceBattles on it, its disgusting politics, and its Mary Sue characters, but all you need to know is that the good guys in the first scene of the book burn an innocent woman alive for being an Anglican priest, on the grounds that only men can be priests.

These sterling heroes beloved by the author proceed to sympathize with Nazis, treat black people in awful ways, LARP as the Kaiserreich, and go against comical strawmen of William Lind's political enemies, those being Evil Techno Women Who Nonetheless Are Completely Incompetent Due To Being Women, Crazy Green Hippie Stalinists, Multicultural Liberals Who Make Gangs Into Armies in the Name of "Tolerance", and so on.

The brutality that Lind's beloved heroes enact against literally every other minority group, and the book's judgment of all of them as being disgusting and worthy of death or (in one notable case) sexual slavery, honestly makes you wonder about Lind's ethics.

I see it as a Turner Diaries for what Lind calls "retroculture".
Link to the SpaceBattles please?
 
Hmm....I can think of some Social Justice-crazed counterpart where a diverse group (of whatever identity they claim to be) goes out and exterminate white cishet males (and females) and any other group with "internalized discrimination" across the Western World; yeah I know I might invite a flame war with this one but it's something that I have been thinking of ever since identity politics has gotten wild throughout this decade.
 
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The Turner Diaries is pretty much a book which introduce basic tools for terrorism, which is thinly disguised as a fiction book to keep it legal and to keep people who don’t agree with the authors world views from reading the book.
 
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