Wi Alphonso Earl of Chester did not die

I apologise if this has already been done, but something I have been wondering about recently is, what if Alphonso the earl of Chester did not die in 1284. Now seeing as he was ten at the time of his death and there are very few scant sources on him, we do not know what he was like or could be like.

If we were to assume he might be something like his father, how do you think this might change things? Would Edward seek to perhaps betroth him to Isabel Bruce to perhaps aid in the conquest of Scotland? Would he look to reestablishing a hold on parts of France? Or would his father keep him betrothed to Margaret of Holland, or maybe even look to Joan of Navarre?

How do people think his relationship with his brother Edward would be like?
 
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I apologise if this has already been done, but something I have been wondering about recently is, what if Alphonso the earl of Chester did not die in 1284. Now seeing as he was ten at the time of his death and there are very few scant sources on him, we do not know what he was like or could be like.

If we were to assume he might be something like his father, how do you think this might change things? Would Edward seek to perhaps betroth him to Isabel Bruce to perhaps aid in the conquest of Scotland? Would he look to reestablishing a hold on parts of France? Or would his father keep him betrothed to Margaret of Holland, or maybe even look to Joan of Navarre?

How do people think his relationship with his brother Edward would be like?

Joan of Navarre had married Philip IV of France 3 days before Alphonso died IOTL, so he'd still be betrothed to Margaret of Holland. As for Scotland, Alexander III is still alive, and, depending on when the POD takes place, so is his eldest surviving son Alexander, so the whole succession crisis could yet be butterflied away.
 
Joan of Navarre had married Philip IV of France 3 days before Alphonso died IOTL, so he'd still be betrothed to Margaret of Holland. As for Scotland, Alexander III is still alive, and, depending on when the POD takes place, so is his eldest surviving son Alexander, so the whole succession crisis could yet be butterflied away.

Hmm, how so? How would Alphonso being alive, ensure that Alexander Prince of Scotland survives?
 
Just checked, Alexander Prince of Scotland died on 17th January, 1284, so unfortunately not.

Though one does wonder what might occur with a timeline where he survives.

A few thoughts on Alphonso, seeing as his mother is Eleanor of Castille he would have a claim on the kingdom, could that possibly mean should something happen to his uncle Sancho, or Sancho's children he'd be in a place to make a claim?
 
So Alphsono, Earl of Chest survives past 1284, when Alexander III dies in his riding accident, techinically Margaret maid of Norway is now QUeen of Scots, does Edward risk angering the dutch and break the betrothal with Margaret of Holland or does he wait and see?

Thinking about it, if Edward wants to bring the Scots into his realm so badly he might be very tempted to do so, and if Margaret does not die in a shipwreck that could have some very interesting consequences
 
So Alphsono, Earl of Chest survives past 1284, when Alexander III dies in his riding accident, techinically Margaret maid of Norway is now QUeen of Scots, does Edward risk angering the dutch and break the betrothal with Margaret of Holland or does he wait and see?

Thinking about it, if Edward wants to bring the Scots into his realm so badly he might be very tempted to do so, and if Margaret does not die in a shipwreck that could have some very interesting consequences

If Alphonso survives, what's to stop Alexander III surviving as well? The riding accident that caused his death was not pre-determined. He could survive long enough to father another son by Yolande of Dreux or someone else, especially if he marries earlier than 1286.
 
Would he have taken the name Alfonso as king? Seeing as it isn't exactly an English name?

Or would he have been styled as Alfonse (French form) or Alphons (Latin form)?
 
If Alphonso survives, what's to stop Alexander III surviving as well? The riding accident that caused his death was not pre-determined. He could survive long enough to father another son by Yolande of Dreux or someone else, especially if he marries earlier than 1286.

True enough, though considering his personality, what is there to say he does not go riding off into that storm? It was that storm that essentially killed him.

Would he have taken the name Alfonso as king? Seeing as it isn't exactly an English name?

Or would he have been styled as Alfonse (French form) or Alphons (Latin form)?

Hmm, if he was as much a son as Edward I as I am imagining he might well have done, and damn the consequences.
 
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