WI Albania remains communist and becomes Europe's North Korea analogue?

Suppose Enver Hoxha has a son, if he doesn't have one already, who is an ideological copy of him like Kim Jong-Il was to his father Kim Il-Sung. Once Enver Hoxha dies, said son succeeds him and maintains his father's insane Stalinist, militarist regime. How would a Europe with a North Korea-esque communist rogue state be different from ours? Would a heavily militarized Albania steer to a conflict like NK has done in the recent past, perhaps over Epirus with Greece or Kosovo with Serbia or would the Kosovars rather stay with Serbia if Albania becomes a mini-North Korea?

Ideas, thoughts?
 
! When i was doing a little research on Enver Hoxha I found this:


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(Enver Hoxha and Kim Il Sung on ether side of the old man)

Thats a strange coincidence....
 
sl

that is pretty unlikely. Albania is a much smaller country than N.K, it has to deal with an economical collapse, is located in Europe, has no allies.
that makes it imposible for a continuation of communism in Albania.
People in Albania were feed up with communism in the 90 s. no chance.
 
Well, North Korea's economy collapsed as well after the USSR broke up since its main benefactor and ally was gone; now it's just a heavily militarized but otherwise poor and weak third world country (and said army is using old outdated cold war equipment too and Soviet standard tactics). It still has China for an ally but Beijing is growing sick and tired of NK's insane psychopathic regime. All they want is stability in the region. Therefore NK is isolated. Btw, Albania kept on going until the 1990s without any allies. In 1961, they ditched the Soviets because Hoxha was anti-revisionist and China in 1978 when the reforms began, citing deviating from Maoism as a reason and creating Hoxhaism as a result. So North Korea is al those things you just mentioned as well. Yet the Stalinist regime is still around there. That only leaves the argument that Albania is smaller (by population that is, not much difference in total area) which is irrelevant.
 
Well, if Albania had become a Juche-like regime in the 1990s, i wonder what the bordering EU\Greece would do. I doubt that any nation in Europe would have been cute & bubbly with a government even worse than Belarus. A government that is no Moscow's bitch, too.
 
Small little detail, China is not North Korea's ally and is just about as opposed to Kim's regime as the US. Just happens that they give them more supplies like food than anyone else, out of mercy for the dying population. Which is proof that as you said, Albania can survive into the 90's and the 21st Century without any allies whatsoever and no real economy. Also, the fact that the people are tired of the regime means little in a totalitarian country similar to NK. Hell, in NK they are tired of the Kims but they can't do squat unless they want to get machine-gunned.
 
Well, if Albania had become a Juche-like regime in the 1990s, i wonder what the bordering EU\Greece would do. I doubt that any nation in Europe would have been cute & bubbly with a government even worse than Belarus. A government that is no Moscow's bitch, too.

Well, to an extent, it would resemble the Romania of Nicolae Ceauşescu and his policies of "systemization".
 
It was the Albanian Partisans who liberated Kosovo in WW II. The Albanians nationalist wanted to keep it. But the Communist wanted to hand it over to Yugoslavia because they were allied with them. They also thought that the communist friends in Yugoslavia would have a referendum in Kosovo and that they would vote, since there were many Albanians there, to re-unite with Albania. There was never a referendum.

Albania even thought about becoming a republic of Yugoslavia. Yugoslavia had much influence in Albania. They say the Soviets even accepted the idea of Yugoslavia annexing Albania. But when Yugoslavia broke with the Soviets the Albanians broke with there neighbor.

The Albanian partisans also helped the Yugoslavians liberate parts of Montengro amd Macedonia.

Albania was one of the few nations in WW II to liberate themselves.

The Nationalist Albanians do say the region of Chameria which is now in Greece and had Cham Albanians should have been part of Greater Albania.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chameria

Has for the OP question if Albania had stayed Stalinist into the 90's they would probably still be isolated in europe.

Found out since they have ties with China that today they are becoming Chinas beachhead in europe.

Question - If the Stalinist had not taken power in 1944 would Albania have remained whole or divided between its neighbors.Would have land be redistributed. Much land in 1945 was put into the hands of the people who worked them. Education was finally really started. The government became more repressive over the years but in the beginning it did pull Albania out of the middle ages plus secured Albanias existance.
 
sl

There was nobody willing to keep the communist regime in Albania in place.
And when I mentioned economical difficulties I mean the Albanian economy had collapsed at this point. As a matter of fact right after the fall of communism it was the foreign humanitarian help that keep the population alive and for the next decade or so the real economy was in the so called “black market”. So yes there is a big difference with N.K their economy is still working and is able to partially supply the needs of the county even today.
As far as a division of Albania after the ww2 it is a possibility since they didn’t have any real allies.
 

AINDF

Banned
There was nobody willing to keep the communist regime in Albania in place.
And when I mentioned economical difficulties I mean the Albanian economy had collapsed at this point. As a matter of fact right after the fall of communism it was the foreign humanitarian help that keep the population alive and for the next decade or so the real economy was in the so called “black market”. So yes there is a big difference with N.K their economy is still working and is able to partially supply the needs of the county even today.
As far as a division of Albania after the ww2 it is a possibility since they didn’t have any real allies.

But if they go the Korean route with Juche/Songun oriented policies, and become an analogue to the DPRK then wouldn't the government be wildly popular as it is in the DPRK, and there would be lots of support for the communists, as well they would be able to keep the economy running with self-reliance and payoffs from scared neighbours?
 
sls

Yes the neighbors were scared or Albanian refugees crossing the border in masses that is why they send humanitarian after the fall or communism. Read the history of Albania after 1990 more carefully and you see what I am talking about when I say the Albanian state/economy collapsed.
 

AINDF

Banned
So what were the reasons for collapse then? You might have to start early, but surely a Juche system (If properly implemented) would help them to avoid it?
 

skorpion123

Banned
Albania was a North Korea analogue without any of the advantages that allowed north Korea to survive. This A/H does not provide such examples. The rest of the world would be stupid to let a North Korea in the Balkans. Thankfully for the Albanians themselves in such scenario this north korea like regime would not last.
 
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