WI/AHC: End of the British monarchy

From 1900 to today, what and when is the best way of ending the monarchy of the United Kingdom and turning it into a republic, some other form of government, or at least something without a King, Queen, or anything of the like.

How can it happen? When? What form of government would take over? How would the monarchy be remember? Affects on foreign policy and relationships?
 
It is difficult post 1900 given the way the UK's monarchy had already evolved by that point. Even the biggest crises it has faced in that time (abdication crisis and Princess Diana) were unlikely to escalate to the point when the institution itself was abolished. The best way of doing it to my mind would be to have the UK have some kind of revolution or somehow become a dictatorship. Perhaps a loss in WW1 sets it down the path to becoming Communist or Fascist later on during the depression. A bit less plausibly, you could have things get far worse in the 1970s/1980s, resulting in a military dictatorship. In a Communist revolution, of course, the royal family would be overthrown, whereas in a fascist or military dictatorship the monarch could cooperate with the regime to the extent that there position could be untenable whenever democracy resumes. I can see no reason why that government wouldn't take the form of a parliamentary democracy, with a relatively toothless President replacing the monarch.

Of course, how the monarchy is remembered very much depends on the circumstances in which it went and what came after. If they were overthrown by a revolution that produced a regime that was eventually itself overthrown, they might be remembered sympathetically,especially if they met a bloody end, but at the same time seen as a bit of an anachronism. If they were complicit in a discredited regime, it would be very much seen as a case of 'good riddance'.
 

Thothian

Banned
Post 1900, I can't see anything plausible that would drop the monarchy. It's mostly a figurehead by then, and simply not worth the trouble.
 
Post 1900, I can't see anything plausible that would drop the monarchy. It's mostly a figurehead by then, and simply not worth the trouble.
Indeed, from 1900 you have for the most part many of the most popular monarchs and/or consorts. Perhaps the time between Victoria dying in 1901 until KGVI and Elizabeth, where the monarchy had to deal with anti-German feelings. Once KGVI + Queen Mum and then QE2 are in place, the monarchy is too strong. Charles will be a bore, but the monarchy will be very popular once William takes the throne, likely, judging by Prince Phillip's and the Queen's longevity, sometime in the next 35-30 years.

If we're seeking a POD, have the monarchy refuse to reject its German routes, and then give sanctuary to the fleeing Romanovs. That should drive up some level of public annoyance.
 
If the abdication crisis goes worse, perhaps we see a King's Party allied with the BUF or, as I've postulated in PM lists, if Wallis Simpson is revealed to have more overt Nazi connections then we could see the monarchy dropped...
 
1900 isn't too late. If you can arrange a major crisis between the USA and the UK, then the USA can get into WWI on the Central Powers side or at least provide material support to the Central Powers. This could lead to a U-Boat starved UK that could produce the conditions needed for a socialist revolution, probably based in the trade unions and Suffragists.
 
As above: you need a major political crisis or change, a revolution or an invasion or a war or some atrocity/regime the monarchy are associated with.

Off the top of my head, the least bloody one would be if that fantasist coup against Wilson was actually started and when it inevitably fell to bits, you have the Queen's uncle tied to a coup against an elected left-wing government. That wouldn't end the monarchy overnight (the Queen wasn't involved after all) but it would mean the left is now hostile to them, having a reason to care more than just "Lol aren't THEY on benefits" memes
 
One possibility so often overlooked is to have George V refuse to assent to the Parliament Act in 1911 and overrule the Conservative majority in the House of Lords that kept rejecting Liberal legislation. Refusing to support a Liberal Government that had won two elections in 1910, and had popular backing for its agenda, would have made for a much more acrimonious c20th for the monarchy with Parliament much less kindly disposed to it. A monarchy that continued to, in concert with the Lords, interfere in Commons business would soon find itself under intense pressure.

Note to self - do more with 1910s constitutional crisis some time!
 
From 1900 to today, what and when is the best way of ending the monarchy of the United Kingdom and turning it into a republic, some other form of government, or at least something without a King, Queen, or anything of the like.

How can it happen? When? What form of government would take over? How would the monarchy be remember? Affects on foreign policy and relationships?
The U.K. would most likely never have fallen though if the royalists won the war the monarchy would have more power
 
I think, in the modern day, a bad enough economic recession could see British republicanism grow stronger. Basically yes, the monarchy is a living tourist attraction at this point, but to get rid of it you need the apathy of the masses to turn into anger. Economic woe could do this. If the monarchy is portrayed as a wealthy elite hoarding money, something of an oligarchic institution, then there might be enough sentiment to get a republican party to win a few elections and get as much traction as UKIP at least.
 
I think, in the modern day, a bad enough economic recession could see British republicanism grow stronger. Basically yes, the monarchy is a living tourist attraction at this point, but to get rid of it you need the apathy of the masses to turn into anger. Economic woe could do this. If the monarchy is portrayed as a wealthy elite hoarding money, something of an oligarchic institution, then there might be enough sentiment to get a republican party to win a few elections and get as much traction as UKIP at least.
Seriously doubt it. Anti establishment insurgencies do well because they campaign for radical action on what they and many voters see as the major issue of the day (immigration, income inequality, etc). You would find very few people who would see the monarchy as the biggest source of the nations problems, as they are just one family who most people know have relatively little power. And that is the strength of the British monarchy. There are plenty of Republicans out there in the various progressive parties, but most see it as a comparatively minor issue, and so they do not want to rock the boat by adopting a policy of abolition.
 
The most obvious would be a loss in World War 1, either to a "German Style" 1918 Revolution, to a Democratic Republic or an all out Socialist/Communist Revolution.
 
It probably requires a far-left revolution which (1) IMO is unlikely in any event, and (2) if it does happen will presumably be part of a chain of events creating a world (and UK) so different from the one we know that abolition of the British monarchy will be one of its least important effects.
 
The nearest the British monarchy has come to being abolished in the last 200 years was in the 1860s when Queen Victoria withdrew from public life. There was mass public demonstrations directed against the monarchy in a way we have never seen during the 20th and 21st century. In the absence of the Queen, people questioned the very purpose of the monarchy. The monarchy in the 20th century saw some of the biggest economic and political disasters the UK has ever faced and escaped without any real impact, largely because the monarchy remained at the center of British society.

The monarchy thrives by being on people's mind, that is why the popularity of the monarchy actually increased in the weeks after the death of Diana, Princess of Wales. Its popularity always skyrockets after high profile weddings, funerals etc.

Although it is often said that the Queen prefers minimal fuss, she has also been quoted as having said "I need to be seen to be believed." It is an interesting insight and I think it is very true. The monarch and Royal Family must be visible, that is where it draws its strength from.

Your best bet to get an abolition is an absentee monarch akin to Queen Victoria in the 1860s. The nearest you had was Edward VIII.
 
Top