WI: African-American Fascist Movement

IOTL, Marcus Garvey seemed to be increasingly sympathetic towards Fascism in the 1930s before the Italian invasion of Ethiopia discredited it as a whole. If the Second Italo-Ethiopian War is avoided, could Garvey end up establishing his own Fascist movement amongst African-Americans?
 
IOTL, Marcus Garvey seemed to be increasingly sympathetic towards Fascism in the 1930s before the Italian invasion of Ethiopia discredited it as a whole. If the Second Italo-Ethiopian War is avoided, could Garvey end up establishing his own Fascist movement amongst African-Americans?

Maybe but don't expect it to get much support. There were advocates of communism too, among blacks, but they got few followers. Very wisely, most blacks realized it was bad enough to be black without a serious additional liability....
 
Maybe but don't expect it to get much support. There were advocates of communism too, among blacks, but they got few followers. Very wisely, most blacks realized it was bad enough to be black without a serious additional liability....
Could it end up becoming a Back-to-Africa movement where there's renewed African-American immigration to Liberia which ends up going Fascist?
Or like in Portugal an elite governs recaptured colonies, and serves as the business class.
Can you elaborate on what you mean?
 

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They wouldn't get along with the other fascist, due to the central tenement being a nation/people
 
Fascism of the original Italian mold, while the neurotic and whicked culmination of every bad idea of the 19th century mixed with a rejection of the Enlightenment, was non racial.
Officially until 1938, at least - you also had a form of explicitly anti-racist Fascism in Brazilian Integralism so something similar to that could be developed.
 
Some kind of alliance between this hypothetical movement and things like the Silver League or the Bund could occur, just as elements of the NoI and Rockwell were on good terms IOTL. Unless this affects the outcome of WW2 though, I don't see it lasting particularly long. But if there's an Axis victory I could see people like Garvey getting German/Italian support, in addition to pro-independence elements in the British colonies.
 
Some kind of alliance between this hypothetical movement and things like the Silver League or the Bund could occur, just as elements of the NoI and Rockwell were on good terms IOTL. Unless this affects the outcome of WW2 though, I don't see it lasting particularly long. But if there's an Axis victory I could see people like Garvey getting German/Italian support, in addition to pro-independence elements in the British colonies.
How long could it last with Italo-German support in the 1930s but with Allied victory in WW2?
 
How long could it last with Italo-German support in the 1930s but with Allied victory in WW2?
As long as the US government and wider public will allow it, so not very long. Certainly elements of the ideology could survive, but eventually you'd have governmental pressure, infighting, and zero outside support that'd thoroughly destroy any kind of organization.
 
Could it end up becoming a Back-to-Africa movement where there's renewed African-American immigration to Liberia which ends up going Fascist?

Can you elaborate on what you mean?
Some within the nazi movement around rosenberg, wanted to copt like the italians. Folks of african decent in the reich could be assigned the leadership roles of colonies like cameroon or namibia which the germans sought to regain.
 
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