WI: A Union of Sweden, Prussia, Saxony, Poland-Lithuania and Russia

Is it possible for Prussia, Saxony, Sweden, Poland-Lithuania and Russia to be united under single monarch?

Here is my (mad) Idea: two POD'S: 1) Frederick the Great have a son and second...Catherine the great have more daugther before despousing her husband(and Anna surives and his son dead from 'misterious cause)

Even after animosity post seven year wars, with the plan of Poland Partitions, there was an idea of marry Frederick the great only son with one of the 'semi-legitimated' daugthers of Catherine to stregth the alliance, both side accept. Poland is eaten as OTL.

after Catherine dead, Anna inhert Russia but was under a lot of pressure for that, with some support of her sisters, she pacified russia but promise her newpeh would become the heir in long term.

After Poland is chubbed, Saxony come next, as europe is busy with Napoleon doesn't care.

When Sweden fall under bernadotte, the Hohenzollern-Romanov push against Sweden...

When napoelon beaten, as the Hohenzollern-Romanov were their biggest enemy, they demand all east of elbe possesion being recgonized... both Netherland and Austria share the rhineland.

Thus we've the Russo-prusso-sweden-saxon-polish Empire, rule by the Hohenzollern-Romanov..what do you think?
 

katchen

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If Sweden-Russia gets Norway and Denmark, Great Britain will have a real challenger down the line. Metternich will spew! This is not restoration of the status quo ante but a new world order, and not one to His Brittanic Majesty's liking!:(
It's ironic indeed, but instead of a Concert of Europe established under overall British world hegemony, we would see something like an early version of the post World War II Iron Curtain Cold War. Ironicaly, a modified Continental System, just like Napoleon proposed! And aside from having free trade with the part of Western Europe not part of the Empire, there would be precious little Great Britain could do about it.
Look to this Empire to pursue a much more aggressive and sharp elbowed expansion. WILL Denmark be part of this Empire and Will Great Britain be shut out of the Baltic? What about Norway? Then, what about Spain? This Empire is in a much better position to rapidly build navies both in the Pacific, by building a naval base at Ayan Bay, and in the West using Murmansk if it dosen't at least get Narvik and Bodo and Namsos at the Congress of Vienna. With capital ships, the Russo-Prussian-Swedish-Polish Empire is in a position to help Spain reconquer it's Empire in return for getting some of it for itself, like California and Oregon and maybe Patagonia. Admiral Cochrane is going to have some stiff competiton. The United States will be forced to put up or shut up navally on the Monroe Doctrine as the world moves to an early Cold War.
 
If Sweden-Russia gets Norway and Denmark, Great Britain will have a real challenger down the line. Metternich will spew! This is not restoration of the status quo ante but a new world order, and not one to His Brittanic Majesty's liking!:(
It's ironic indeed, but instead of a Concert of Europe established under overall British world hegemony, we would see something like an early version of the post World War II Iron Curtain Cold War. Ironicaly, a modified Continental System, just like Napoleon proposed! And aside from having free trade with the part of Western Europe not part of the Empire, there would be precious little Great Britain could do about it.
Look to this Empire to pursue a much more aggressive and sharp elbowed expansion. WILL Denmark be part of this Empire and Will Great Britain be shut out of the Baltic? What about Norway? Then, what about Spain? This Empire is in a much better position to rapidly build navies both in the Pacific, by building a naval base at Ayan Bay, and in the West using Murmansk if it dosen't at least get Narvik and Bodo and Namsos at the Congress of Vienna. With capital ships, the Russo-Prussian-Swedish-Polish Empire is in a position to help Spain reconquer it's Empire in return for getting some of it for itself, like California and Oregon and maybe Patagonia. Admiral Cochrane is going to have some stiff competiton. The United States will be forced to put up or shut up navally on the Monroe Doctrine as the world moves to an early Cold War.

we never mention those two countries, only the one in the list, who would be rouglhy(otl) Prussia,Saxony Poland-lithuania, Baltic countries, Sweden-Finland and russia, butterflies would keep denmark-norway union unlike giving norway as reward to sweden(and here with more reason, heck supper Hohenzoller-Romanov would scare the shit of Britain, Austria and what remain of france) and the rheinland is share by both Netherland and Austria, here prussia think themselves as a different identity that german(heck i can imagine a language mixing high german, russia and some of french and polish) and rest would follow.

For that the idea of an early 'super russia' as was soviet union work would work.

Heck your idea work nice as post vienna world, when the GREAT GAME, between the British empire and the Eastern Empire(name not final) fight for world hegemony, having Spain as ally in the medditeranena, bullying the ottomans and wanting expansion.

that is nice...maybe made a TL about it.
 
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