WI: A Non-Ottoman Turkish Empire

If Osman I is killed at the Battle of Bapheus, preventing his forces from settling near the Byzantine Empire, what would be the effects of another Anatolian Turkish beylik forming a regional empire?
 
Danishmends are long gone, so either the White Sheep or Black Sheep Turkic groups could emerge from the ashes of the Turkic territories. Alternatively, the Golden Horde could become the new Islamic empire that will play the role of the Ottomans, provided that Jani Beg and Tini Beg don't try to kill each other.
 

Delvestius

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Fairly good I would imagine... There were so many of those Beyliks that it would have taken just one crafty leader to capitalize on the situation.

Though there are alternatives... The lack of a strong Turk state might prompt the Il-Khanate to expand it's borders, instead of keeping the Turks around as tribute states, though if Osman was killed, then I'd imagine the Seljuks would retain power for atleast a little while longer, and things would have been the status quote. Either way, the walls of Byzantium are going to fall to the Turks, whatever their ruling family may be.
 
Is it possible that the Byzantines get conquered by the Golden Horde instead? Why couldn't the Tatars play the role of the Ottomans and preserve their state for a while. There should be a TL where there is a superpower Tatar state.
 
I don't think that the Golden Horde would be able to shift its base of operations while maintaining their already huge empire, so I don't buy them becoming a replacement for the Ottomans. Of course the other Beyliks all have good chances, and Karaman in particular did well IOTL for a while. Maybe we would see a more prosperous Trebizond, since in many ways Trebizond was much like the Beyliks. The Turkmen are also quite likely, although in the event that the Turks don't unite on schedual I would call a Byzantine revival fairly plausible too.
 
If Byzantium doesn't fall to Ottomans, then it wouldn't fall to any other turkic state. There were very specific reasons -like the nature od the warrior state, the presense of bektashis, the special relationship between the house of Palaiologos and that of Osman, etc- that made for the Ottomans possible to conquer Byzantium and become a great power. The rest of the turkic emirates of Anatolia never showed such a dynamic. Even the Seltzuks, after their initial success, they soon turned to the defensive gradualy losing more and more ground and power.
 
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