Wait killing them all is better then kicking them out?![]()
No, only kicking some out is better than kicking them all out.
Wait killing them all is better then kicking them out?![]()
Even when you include the Soviet Union, there is no moral equivalency between the Allies and Germany. None.
The Allies didn't start the war, but the Allies finished it and, because they did so, the war was finished on the Allies terms. Humanity is far better off that it was the Allies, rather then Germany, finished the war.
Germany, having chose war and having sparked each escalation in it's frightfulness, has no standing whatsoever when it wants to whine about the postwar "crimes" it supposedly "suffered".
The Allies weren't angels, but no one is when you're fighting a war of national, ethnic, and racial survival.
The Allies were hardly angels.
In the end most of them simply did'nt care, they knew what would happen and what did, yet they did'nt even try and persuade the Soviets to not do it.
Germany, having chose war and having sparked each escalation in it's frightfulness, has no standing whatsoever when it wants to whine about the postwar "crimes" it supposedly "suffered".
In any case, there is a poorer and less friendly Germany as a result. The Dutch and French are richer, and Germany will eventually be their ally. But it'll be a chilly relationship for a couple decades after 1945.
In any case, there is a poorer and less friendly Germany as a result. The Dutch and French are richer, and Germany will eventually be their ally. But it'll be a chilly relationship for a couple decades after 1945.
I think a couple decades are underestimated, make that a few millenia, and you're right. Also, no EU, ever.
Poland annexed more territory than anyone else and Germany and Poland have good relations today.
France did'nt actually take any teritory IOTL, and has histrocially been Germany's enemy/rival, yet they have close and good relations today.
The Netherlands gaining some border area is not going to change that.
As for the EU, it and its predecessors were created initialy because they were good ideas and in the best interest of Germany and the others involved.
Even when you include the Soviet Union, there is no moral equivalency between the Allies and Germany. None.
The Allies didn't start the war, but the Allies finished it and, because they did so, the war was finished on the Allies terms. Humanity is far better off that it was the Allies, rather then Germany, finished the war.
Germany, having chose war and having sparked each escalation in it's frightfulness, has no standing whatsoever when it wants to whine about the postwar "crimes" it supposedly "suffered".
The Allies weren't angels, but no one is when you're fighting a war of national, ethnic, and racial survival.