WI 1916 Brusilov offensive was succesfull

What if the 1916 Brusilov offensive carried out by Alexsei Brusilov succeeded how would this affect WWI???

Btw is it ASB or plausable for this offensive to succeed?
 
What if the 1916 Brusilov offensive carried out by Alexsei Brusilov succeeded how would this affect WWI???

Btw is it ASB or plausable for this offensive to succeed?

It was successful, they took a decent amount of territory and inflicted a mega body count on the central powers

the only problem was Brusilov took so many losses himself that it made the victory's value much less than it could have been ( this has been Russia's way in many wars; I can't speak to how you would change this barring a complete collapse of AH)
 
It was successful, they took a decent amount of territory and inflicted a mega body count on the central powers

the only problem was Brusilov took so many losses himself that it made the victory's value much less than it could have been ( this has been Russia's way in many wars; I can't speak to how you would change this barring a complete collapse of AH)

Ah but I'm saying what if it succeeded completly could it still save Russias armies on the eastern front or would itnot amount to much at all. I mean what if Austria Hungary did not remove it's Italian troops to defend gallica against Russia , couldn't the offensive reach Vienna or is it too ASB. Maybe have the Italians do much better on ther front..??
 
Ah but I'm saying what if it succeeded completly could it still save Russias armies on the eastern front or would itnot amount to much at all. I mean what if Austria Hungary did not remove it's Italian troops to defend gallica against Russia , couldn't the offensive reach Vienna or is it too ASB. Maybe have the Italians do much better on ther front..??

Well in the italian front even with less A-h is difficult to achieve the breaktrhoug but doable, with a very heavy cost naturally but doable, but the Vienna objective is almost ASB, the current italian border is the max.
The only problem in this scenario is that now Cadorna is a hero and a great strategist and knowing the little prick is not a good thing
 
The Brusilov Offensive was launched to distract the Germans from Verdun. It was so successful in this regard that the Germans redeployed forces to the East to stop it. So I think the best way for the Brusilov Offensive to succeed is, paradoxically, to tie the Germans down in the West and prevent them from coming to Austria-Hungary's aid.

What if the British use their forces intended for the Somme offensive at Verdun instead? I doubt it's logistically feasible to get that many troops and their supplies there rather than the Somme, but perhaps a major breakout at Verdun would keep the pressure on the Germans in the West and improve the Brusilov Offensive's chances of success.
 
The offensive was successful. It destroyed the Austro-Hungarians for the rest of the war. It also, however, exhausted Russia's manpower pool. In World War I there is no means for Russia to have better than a draw without ensuring the Ottomans are one of the Allies. Past that point Russia's economic weakness will be increasing whether it wins or loses on the battlefield.
 

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The Offensive was relatively successful. I attempted at a TL involving a larger Brusilov offensive but I didnt have the time. Its ultimate hops was not to take Vienna but instead was intended on breaking the will of the Hungarians and shatter the nation before Ausgleich was to be reuped in 1917.

And it was not the Brusilov Offensive that was to relieve pressure on Verdun. The Lake Naroch Offensive was meant to do that, and the massive failure forced the Grand Offensive (of which OTL offensive was just the southern portion) to be scaled down.
 
One of the main reasons why the original offensive(s) were so succesful was that Brusillov was forced to make his offensives but was not given any additional resources to do it with

So extreme care was taken in the preparations and the hiding of those preparations from the A-H's. Effectively tactical surprise was achieved and the A-H forces did not have sufficient reserves to cover the resulting tactical breakthroughs, resulting in an almost general collaspse of the front (this is remarkably similar to the British 3rd and 5th armies facing off against the spring 1918 German offensive). Once the general breakthrough was produced it is not until the Russians start to divert their actions against the reinforced German wing of the central powers line that they started to receive massive casualties and a peetering out of the offensive itself.

The latter sub-offensives reverted to the usual ww1 Russian obsession with massed infantry assaults against prepared defences which obviously failed to obtain any satisfactory result - why Brusillov allowed/ordered such a reversion is a mystery.
 
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