Why the Chinese play cricket (an Imperial Federation timeline)

So a question. I'm almost finished 1895 and I know Cleveland will bow out in 1896. Now as I look at the TL Anglo-US relations are significantly lower than in the OTL. There's a minor and major reason for this.

The minor one is as the Dominions have become increasingly important in the British Govt scheme of things they've become increasingly unwilling to throw the Canadians under the bus in order to improve relations with the US, pretty much to the point where by 1895 they won't do it.

The major reason is James Blaine. His unwavering and utterly false belief the British were trying to undermine US influence in South America seriously poisoned relations. First during his brief term as Sec of State under Garfield it led him to really piss off the Chileans over support for Peru in the War of the Pacific. This directly lead to the US humiliation ITTL at their hands in the Panama Crisis. And yet again he blamed the British for it. His subsequent attempts to force the British out of South American markets basically left them with no option but to work against US interests (a byproduct of this was to make the British even less likely to throw the Canadians under the bus). Thus creating a vicious spiral.

He also abrogated the Treaty of Washington, throwing the one big step which happened in the bin and drove up Anglophobia in the US during his four year term. He was followed by Cleveland for eight years who did a lot to repair the damage, basically getting things back on track for the Great Reproachment of the OTL, just running about 10-12 years late.

The problem I already know whoever the Republicans put up in 1896 will be President and I can't see it being anyone other than McKinley. Here's the thing, in the OTL McKinley's Sec of State was Blaine. Giving him another chance to throw a spanner in the works.

I've gone through all the former US presidents and it seems in this period it wasn't uncommon for them to remain active in politics. Two served in the senate, several others seriously considered it, and one was pushed to run for a governorship. But a former president being given a cabinet post seems a bit more than senator or governor. So do people think it's possible Blaine might be McKinley's Sec of State ITTL?
 

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It's not impossible. It's never happened, but there's nothing preventing it. Other than his extremely poor health of course. You might have overlooked the fact that Blaine died in January 1893 aged 63 IOTL... so it'd depend on if he lives that long or not.
 
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It's not impossible. It's never happened, but there's nothing preventing it. Other than his extremely poor health of course. You might have overlooked the fact that Blaine died in January 1893 aged 63 IOTL... so it'd depend on if he lives that long or not.

Bugger your right opps. Thank you, I was confusing McKinley with Harrison. It was Harrison who had Blaine as Sec f State. My bad. Move along nothing to see here lol.
 
Another pure colour post. The British Army regiments formed after the 1881 Cardwell reforms ITTL. Basically the changes from the OTL is the cavalry got amalgamated too and new regimental numbers were assigned to the line regiments, except the Rifle Brigade and West India Regiment (which everyone seems to forget was actually always on the British Establishment and if numbered by seniority it would be surprisingly high up, 1779 is its formation as the Carolina Corp I believe, sitting between the Seaforth and Gordon Highlanders.)

Brigade of Guards
- Cavalry
-- Life Guards = 1LG + 2LG
-- Royal Horse Guards = RHG
- Infantry
-- Grenadier Guards = 1FG
-- Coldstream Guards = 2FG
-- Scots Guards = 3FG
- Other Arms
-- Royal Horse Artillery

Line Cavalry (Regimental numbers abolished 1892)
- 1st King's Horse = 1DG
- 2nd Queen's Light Horse = 2DG + 5DG
- 3rd Princess of Wales Caribineers = 3DG + 6DG
- 4th Royal Irish Dragoon Guards = 4DG + 7DG
- 5th Royal Dragoons = 1D
- 6th Scots Grey Dragoons = 2D + 13H
- 7th King's Light Dragoons = 3H + 14H
- 8th Queen's Hussars = 4H + 18H
- 9th Royal Inniskilling Light Dragoons = 6D + 15H
- 10th Queen's Light Dragoons = 7H + 19H
- 11th Royal Irish Hussars = 8H + 20H
- 12th Royal Lancers = 9L+17L
- 13th Royal Hussars = 10H + 11H
- 14th Prince of Wales Royal Lancers = 12L + 21L
- 15th Queen's Royal Irish Lancers = 5L + 16L

Line Infantry (Regimental numbers abolished 1892)
- 1st Royal Scots = 1F
- 2nd Queen's West Surrey Regiment = 2F
- 3rd East Kent Buffs = 3F
- 4th Kings Own Royal Lancaster Regiment = 4F
- 5th Northhumberland Fusiliers = 5F
- 6th Royal Warickshire Regiment = 6F
- 7th Royal Fusiliers = 7F
- 8th King's Liverpool Regiment = 8F
- 9th Norfolk Regiment = 9F
- 10th Lincolnshire Regiment = 10F
- 11th Devonshire Regiment = 11F
- 12th Suffolk Regiment = 12F
- 13th Prince Albert's Somersetshire Light Infantry = 13LI
- 14th Prince of Wales' Own West Yorkshire Regiment = 14F
- 15th East Yorkshire Regiment = 15F
- 16th Bedfordshire Regiment = 16F
- 17th Leicestershire Regiment = 17F
- 18th Royal Irish Regiment = 18F
- 19th Princess of Wales Own Yorkshire Regiment = 19F
- 20th Lancastershire Fusiliers = 20F
- 21st Royal Scots Fusiliers = 21F
- 22nd Cheshire Regiment = 22F
- 23rd Royal Welsh Fusiliers = 23F
- 24th South Wales Borderers = 24F
- 25th King's Own Borderers = 25F
- 26th Cameronians (Scotch Rifles) = 26F + 90LI
- 27th Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers = 27F + 108F
- 28th Glostershire Regiment = 28F + 61F
- 29th Worcestershire Regiment = 29F + 36F
- 30th East Lancashire Regiment = 30F + 59F
- 31st East Surrey Regiment = 31F + 70F
- 32nd Duke of Cornwall's Light Infantry = 32LI + 46F
- 33rd Duke of Wellington's West Riding Regiment = 33F + 76F
- 34th Border Regiment = 34F + 55F
- 35th Royal Sussex Regiment = 35F + 107F
- 36th Hampshire Regiment = 37F + 67F
- 37th South Staffordshire Regiment = 38F + 80F
- 38th Dorsetshire Regiment = 39F + 54F
- 39th Prince of Wales South Lancashire Volunteers = 40F + 82F
- 40th Welsh Regiment = 41F + 69F
- 41st The Black Watch (Royal Highlanders) = 42H + 73H
- 42nd Oxfordshire Light Infantry = 43LI + 52LI
- 43rd Essex Regiment = 44F + 56F
- 44th The Sherwood Foresters (Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire Regiment) = 45F + 95F
- 45th Loyal North Lancashire Regiment = 47F + 81F
- 46th Northhamptonshire Regiment = 48F + 58F
- 47th Princess Charlotte of Wales' Berkshire Regiment = 49F + 66F
- 48th Queen's Own Royal West Kent Regiment = 50F + 97F
- 49th King's Own Yorkshire Light Infantry = 51LI + 105LI
- 50th King's Shropshire Light Infantry = 53F + 85LI
- 51st Duke of Cambridge's Own Middlesex Regiment = 57F + 77F
- 52nd King's Royal Rifle Corp = 60KRRC
- 53rd Duke of Edinburgh's Wiltshire Regiment = 62F + 99F
- 54th Manchester Regiment = 63F + 96F
- 55th Prince of Wales' North Staffordshire Regiment = 64F + 98F
- 56th York and Lancaster Regiment = 65F + 84F
- 57th Durham Light Infantry = 68LI + 106LI
- 58th Highland Light Infantry = 71HLI + 74F
- 59th Seaforth Highlanders = 72H + 78H
- 60th Gordon Highlanders = 75H + 92H
- 61st Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders = 79H
- 62nd Royal Irish Rifles = 83F + 86F renamed Royal Ulster Rifles 1896
- 63rd Princess Victoria's Royal Irish Fusiliers = 87F + 89F
- 64th Connaught Rangers = 88F + 94F
- 65th Princess Louises' Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders = 91H + 93H
- 66th Prince of Wales' Leinster Regiment = 100F + 109F
- 67th Royal Munster Fusiliers = 101F + 104F
- 68th Royal Dublin Fusiliers = 102F + 103F
- Prince Consort's Own Rifle Brigade = RB
- West India Regiment = 1WIR + 2WIR

Other Arms
- Royal Regiment of Artillery
- Corps of Royal Engineers
 
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Jan-June 1890: Conquering the summits
~Jan-June 1890: Conquering the summits

January 1890: For many years the Portuguese have been trying to establish an overland route between their colonies of Angola and Mozambique, claiming much of central Africa as a consequence. To reinforce these claims, they have been sending troops into the region, leading too increasing tensions with the British who are also attempting to expand into central Africa. In an effort to resolve these tensions, the Treaty of Lisbon is signed. The treaty grants most of the disputed region to the British, but Nyssaland is assigned to the Portuguese and the British guarantee the Portuguese transit across the disputed territory, as well as committing to defend the Portuguese colonies in the event of attack.

January 1890: With his position now secure after the attempted 1889 coup, Brazilian Prime Minister Afonso Celso enacts the Lei Celso or Celso's Law removing the income restriction on the franchise and more importantly, allowing former slaves to vote. While the literacy requirement is retained, the new law increases the franchise from 1% to 10% of the population.

January 1890: After a series of discussions at a diplomatic level, Campbell-Bannerman, Canadian Premier John MacDonald and US President Cleveland meet in Ottawa for a formal summit. The main issues are tariffs, access to fisheries, the Bearing Sea sealing dispute, an outstanding boundary dispute in Alaska and the annexation of Hawai'i. It is quickly decided the best approach regarding the Bearing Sea and Alaskan issues is to send them to international arbitration. Regarding Hawai'i, Cleveland stresses a congressional report on the matter is due shortly. But he reassures both men the matter will be resolved with full respect for the Hawai'ian people and the US military presence will not be expanded. The other two matters are more problematic. Currently support for protectionism is extremely high in the US, however he suggests establishing a commission to look into the possibility of new treaty covering these issues. While both Campbell-Bannerman and MacDonald find this disappointing, the summit is regarded as very successful.

February 1890: In recognition of the navy's loyalty during last year's attempted coup, Brazil places an order an 8,000 ton armoured cruiser. As a gesture of thanks for the US role in saving the monarchy, the order is placed with Cramp & Sons in Philadelphia. The Dom Pedro II will be the most powerful warship ordered thus far in the South American Naval Arms Race.

March 1890: With it being necessary to call elections within the next two years, Campbell-Bannerman is faced with the dilemma of meeting his commitment to Irish Reform Party leader William Shaw. It is extremely clear the Conservatives will block any attempt to introduce Irish home rule in the Lords, meaning it will be impossible to fulfil his promise to Shaw. The matter is discussed at length in Cabinet. Joseph Chamberlain points out, if Irish home rule is introduced, it will inevitable lead to calls for Scottish home rule and then Welsh, which will be impossible to refuse, resulting in a breakup of the Union. He suggest introducing an extensive program of reform in Ireland as an alternative, to “kill home rule with kindness” by removing the demand for it. However Charles Dilke presents an interesting take on this. He agrees, Irish home rule will inevitably lead to Scottish and Welsh home rule, However, rather than seeing this as the end of the Union, perhaps it is merely a transformation and may in fact be desirable. He believes a policy of full devolution should be followed, along the lines of the Canadian Federation. In his suggested policy England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales will all have their own government, remaining subordinate to the central government in Westminster. He stresses if home rule is granted individually over time, it inevitably will be patterned on the Dominions, whereas if each government is established at the same time, their powers can be more limited. Finally cabinet decide to adopt elements of both approaches, introducing extensive reforms in Ireland to reduce the pressure for home rule and pursuing limited national devolution to as an alternative.

March 1890: Campbell-Bannerman raises the potential devolution policy with Shaw as an alternative to home rule. Shaw is highly sceptical, believing to even less likely to be possible than home rule. He is also concerned it will mean the degree of autonomy being offered will insufficient to meet the demands of the more radical elements in Irish nationalism and Parnell's Home Rule Party will capitalise on this to increase their support. He therefore rejects the proposal, continuing to demand a home rule bill in the next year Regarding winning Shaw's support as a prerequisite for devolution, Campbell-Bannerman will shelve the concept for the meantime.

March 1890: Since the accession of Kaiser Wilhelm II, relations between him and his Chancellor Bismark have become increasingly strained. Wilhelm is firmly opposed to Bismark's cautious foreign policy, preferring an aggressive Imperialist policy to allow Germany to take its “place in the sun.” Eventually matters come to a head over Bismark's attempts to extend his anti-socialist laws. While Wilhelm supports these laws, Bismark fails to inform him of a meeting attempting to get the extension passed. Furious at this, Wilhelm demands Bismark's resignation and replaces him with Leo von Caprivi.

April 1890: Continued pressure from the bimetalist Free Silver Movement leads to the passage of the Sherman Silver Purchase Act, forcing the government to massively increase the amount of silver they purchase for Silver coinage. Despite President Cleveland vetoing the act, it has sufficient support in Congress to override the veto. The act will again, artificially inflate the US currency, leading to instability.

April 1890: In the wake of the German victory in the Franco-Prussian War former Chancellor Bismark followed a cautious diplomatic policy aimed at maintaining French's isolation. Part of this was to maintain good relations with Russia. This was achieved through the League of Three Emperors between Austria-Hungary, Germany and Russia, signed in 1873. The first League ended as a result of the Congress of Berlin in 1879 due to Russian anger at losing its gains during the Great Eastern War. Germany replaced the League with the Dual Alliance, a simple defensive treaty between Austria-Hungary and Germany. However Bismark was able to revive the League in 1881 for a three year term. In 1882, Italy joined the Dual Alliance creating the Triple Alliance between Austria-Hungary, Germany and Italy. Nevertheless, the League was renewed for another three years in 1884 and again in 1887. With the League due to expire, Russia approaches Germany once more to obtain its renewal. However Kaiser Wilhelm II's desire for a new aggressive foreign policy and seeking to improve relations with Britain, believes it will hamper that goal. He feels his personal friendship with Tsar Alexander III will ensure cordial relations. Thus the Germans allow the League to lapse, leaving Russia without allies.

April 1890: In the seven years since 1883, two battleships, eight armoured cruisers, fifteen cruisers, five monitors, eight gunboats and twenty torpedo boats have been ordered for the US navy, all in private yards. However as yet only five cruisers and six gunboats have been commissioned, though all twenty torpedo boats have been have been completed. This is raising considerable concerns about the efficiency of US shipbuilders. As part of the 1890 naval estimates, a full investigation into the industry is ordered. The estimates themselves include only three battleships, a single cruiser and four torpedo gunboats along the British pattern. However one of the battleships and the cruiser are to be constructed in navy yards to judge their efficiency.

April 1890: The report of US Congressman James Blount into the annexation of Hawai'i finds the US government actively colluded with settlers in the overthrow of the Hawai'ian monarchy and the use of sailors in support of the coup was illegal, finding the US diplomatic and military representatives in Hawai'i at the time directly responsible for the affair. The officer responsible for deploying US sailors is forced to resign, and President Cleveland immediately calls on Congress for a resolution voiding the annexation and offering the Hawai'ians 'all possible assistance' in restoring the monarchy and re-establishing independence. His only proviso is King Kalākaua issues an amnesty for the coup leaders and a new constitution be written guaranteeing the rights of the US settlers, the King agrees to the amnesty but demands the restoration of the 1864 Constitution. Regardless, Congress refuse to pass the resolution, stating Blount had been appointed to investigate the annexation without Congressional approval. Consequently it commissions its own report, to be conducted by pro-annexation Senator John Morgan.

June 1890: The first elections under the new electoral law are held in Brazil. The election will see over one million people vote compared with just 94,000 in 1886, and return an overwhelmingly liberal General Assembly. Celso will take the results as a clear mandate to continue reform.

June 1890: The final step in implementing the Hofmeyr Compromise is put in place with the creation of the Imperial Security Council. The Council will sit in London, being chaired by the Colonial Secretary and include the Secretary of State for India plus twelve members appointed by the Dominion governments, with a small permanent secretariat to support its operations. Its role is to facilitate consultation between the British and Dominions on matters of Imperial concern and allow a rapid response to any crisis. While it has no actual power over the British government's decisions, it does for the first time give the Dominions an official mechanism to voice their opinions on Imperial affairs. The Council will also include military and naval committees which will endeavour to ensure interoperability amongst the British and Dominion forces by encouraging standardisation of equipment, training, organisation and operational methods.
 
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Thought I could get away without mentioning this. Seems not

January 1888: Since the very early 1870s the Germans have desired to build a railway linking Berlin Baghdad. This will not only give them access to a warm water port on the Persian Gulf, it will enable them to exploit the vast oil reserves suspected to lie in Mesopotamia. While a rail connection from Berlin to Constantinople already exists, there is no link from Constantinople to Baghdad. The Ottomans are also keen and willing to subsidise such a project as it will greatly improve communications within the Empire. Work, funded by Deutsches Bank, begins on the first stage, Constantinople to Ankara.

=McUpdate=
 
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@Miss Construction, may I recommend that you threadmark your minor updates. Because I personally would like to read what you write, and would love to be updated when you do.

Thank you. Which updates? Any update to the TL is edited into the main chapter. I'm trying to only include actual TL chapters in the threadmarks, I find it makes them easier to read. However all the TL updates have a tag at the bottom =McUpdate= if you simply do a search in the thread for that text string you should get them all listed.
 
A good source for arms trade and relations with the Germans and the Ottomans is Arming the Sultan: German Arms Trade and Personal Diplomacy in the Ottoman Empire Before World War by Naci Yorulmaz. Its an interesting read that gives insights into that section of late 19th and early 20th relations between the two states.
 
Very interested to see the continual slow buildup of changes. Especially did not see the longer lasting Empire of Brazil coming. I’m very curious to see how Anglo-American relations evolve here.
 
A good source for arms trade and relations with the Germans and the Ottomans is Arming the Sultan: German Arms Trade and Personal Diplomacy in the Ottoman Empire Before World War by Naci Yorulmaz. Its an interesting read that gives insights into that section of late 19th and early 20th relations between the two states.

I'll have to see if my library has a copy :)
 
Very interested to see the continual slow buildup of changes. Especially did not see the longer lasting Empire of Brazil coming. I’m very curious to see how Anglo-American relations evolve here.

Thank you. I've always wanted to save the Empire of Brazil, just never been able to figure a way which would tie back to the PoD. It will be interesting to see what the effect of a more liberal Brazil is.
 

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Miss C's Design Notes #2 – The issue with India

This originally was something I posted in the third Iteration of this TL as I was retiring it it. At the time, it was just my reflections on my efforts thus far. I'm putting them here just on the off chance anyone who's only started following the TL in this latest iteration has the opportunity to see how truly badly I can attempt to construct a timeliine. Those who have migrated from the third iteration have already the chance to see my embarrassing early efforts. I do sometimes wonder if there's anybody still here who came in on my very first attempt. If there is, thank you very much for sticking with it during my floundering early attempts to construct a timeline. I know regard them as a learning experience. Trial and error does seem to have improved my work.

But after writing that, I thought I might mention something which has been troubling me about the TL for the past few days. In truth there are a few things on my mind with the TL, but this is the most important. I'll see how the word count goes if can bring up any others. It's about India. India is really the most critical element in the success or failure of any attempt at an Imperial Federation. There are, I think, two of reasons for this. The most obvious is the sheer muscle it bring to such a federation. This is so clear I don't think much needs to be said about it. Hundreds of millions of people, vast natural resources, a well established educated class and its immense potential for development. Not an exaggeration to say India is any federations hinterland. There was a reason it was called the Jewel in the Imperial crown.

To lose India would fatally wound an Imperial federation, leaving no chance for recovery. Of course not underestimating how much damage the loss of the Home Islands or any of the Dominions would cause. Even the seemingly poor relation New Zealand has a potential strategic importance most don't realise. Little isolated kiwiland currently produces enough food to feed 45-50 million people, and we're not even breaking a sweat. I've seen estimates as high as 200-250 million if we put our mind to it. Plus we're virtually immune to any attack short of a nuclear one.

But India alone, its loss would doom any such federation. Just as it did the British Empire. Yes, I know there were a lot lot of other factors at play at the time, at the time, but with India there could have been some kind of Imperial recovery. From my understanding, the Raj never ran in the red. The Empire would have been greatly reduced, that the Dominions were no longer willing to play dutiful junior partners couldn't be changed, but as long as India was part of it, some form of Empire could be retained. But it's not just India's muscle which is so vital to an Imperial federation.

I mentioned a second reason why India is so critical. I think its even more important than India's muscle. I'm pretty sure if India was lost before the hammer blows of two Worlds Wars, plus Britain and the Dominions were already seriously committed to Imperial federation at the time, an Imperail federation could have survived for some considerable time. Nevertheless, the second reason will ultimately doom it. To understand take a globe and look at the Americas. They are a very effective barrier to movement between the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans. The way our maps are laid out actually makes sense, the Americas effectively create an edge. Panama and Cape Horn are easily blocked, so you can not rely on getting passed the Americas.

So now layout a traditional flat map. Take away India and the Empire is divided into two very distinct groups. You have Australia, New Zealand and the Asian colonies in one group. The home islands, Africa and Canada in the other. Though Canada is sort out on its own. I'm pretty sure these two groups will inevitable develop very different and incompatible geopolitical outlooks and identities. Sooner or later the Imperial federation will split in two due to these differences. From there it's all down hill. Canada will eventually fall into the US sphere, The Asian-Pacific half isn't big enough to support itself. And the rump British African half will probably go down the path of the French Empire. Without India, Empire or Federation, it's doomed. India is the heartland of the Empire in more than one way.

Sign, this has turned into another of my rambles. And I haven't even got to what's on my mind yet. Though I do think it worthwhile explaining why I see India as so vital to any Imperial federation. But what's on my mind. You can't keep India as the Raj indefinitely. In fact I believe if you start in 1870 as I have, you have maybe 50 or 60 years until India is on a clear path to some kind of Dominion status, possibly less. I've gone with 50. To bring India in, you have to overcome two issues. First you need sufficient Indian people who are invested in the federation to take over from the British and run it, I figure maybe 10% of population, but that could be a high estimate. This is my educated highly Anglicised middle and upper class of Indians I take such pains creating. Not too hard to achieve but you have to deal with British racism and the legacy of the Indian Rebellion, which casts a very long shadow of mistrust. But as I said, well within the realms of possibility.

It's the second issue which is the tricky one. You very simply can not bring India in as a single Dominion. The British and the European Dominions will be terrified of being swamped in their own Empire by sheer weight of numbers. And they'd very probably be right. So you have to break it up into multiple Dominions. In the third iteration I went with seven. This time I'm going for more, possibly as many as thirty. That's the nine provinces under direct British rule plus the 21 Princely States which maintained their own governments. The other 524 Princely States will be incorporated into a former province. Not only does this further dilute the menace of Indian numbers, it actually seems a more natural and realistic way they'd go about it than the artificially created seven I used last time. The administrative structures are already well established and probably easier to get the Indians to accept it as well because they're familiar with it.

Which, after my ramble, finally brings me to what's on my mind, the problem I think I've seen. You can't make a partition like this work if the Indians aren't willing to go along with it. Even if you force it on them, enough of the new Dominions will cooperate closely enough to bring you right back to the weight of numbers problem. So you need to have a divide and rule policy in place right at the start. Seems easily enough, the British were very good at divide and rule and actually did have such a policy in India. And then you hit the problem, something I totally missed last time. In fact only recognised it a few days ago.

Alongside the divide and rule, the British loved creating a strong centralised colonial administration. They had a very good reason, efficiency and cost effectiveness. The British ran their Empire on a budget, so kind of hard to argue against. And in the case of India, the central administration was particularly lean and efficient. They ran thee entire country with just 1,000 British civil servants. And they were all British, the Indian civil service didn't start admitting Indians until around 1900, even then probably not more than 100. There's a part of me which can't help but admire that. Sure I have to put aside the racism, exploitation and occasional massacre, but to run a country of 3300 million people with just 1,000 bureaucrats in the central government is quite an achievement. Even if you include the Indian army, you're still only adding another 4,000 or so British officers.

This is where the issue arises. Most of the day to day administration was handled at the provincial level, where Indians were involved, quite a few. But the Indians always knew the real power lay with the central government where they were excluded. And they wanted in on that. Virtually the entire focus of early Indian nationalism was to get Indians into the tiny Imperial Civil Service. This where the pan Indian sentiment comes from, that first class example of just how efficiently their country could be run by so few people. It's entirely understandable they wanted to keep that lean efficient bureaucracy after independence. So the problem bothering me is, how do I stop that? Regardless, I'm going to have to dig and rework India yet again.

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This timeline was originally intended to have the Japanese playing cricket. However this timeline is now growing organically as I incorporate the very valuable criticism being given. I might still be able to swing the Japanese around to a gentleman's game, but the focus is now China.

The first iteration was to be frank, total and utter crud. Possibly it's actually an insult to total and utter crud to refer to it as such. It comprised of little more than unrealistic changes to history thrown in heavy handedly to achieve the predetermined result I wanted. I completely ignored the wider implications of these changes as I bulldozed history to produce an all powerful everlasting British Empire. In short it was nothing more than a crudely twisted version of the OTL with the serial numbers filed off. It's PoD was Gladstone forming a more radical cabinet for his second ministry in March 1880. That I never bothered with of the minor detail of why Gladstone did this is perhaps highly indicative of the flaws in this iteration.

The First Iteration

The second iteration was definitely an improvement, however it retained many of the flaws of the first and was still essentially the OTL with the serial numbers filed off. It initially kept the same PoD but as the TL progressed it became clear this was not early enough. Thus I shifted it to the 1870 introduction of the Tenants of landlords (Ireland) Act. Despite the improvements, the TL the fundamental flaw of failing to take account of the wider global implications of the changes occurring in the Empire made it unworkable. Eventually I realised this and abandoned it, rebooting it again.

The Second Iteration

The third iteration was finally a “workable” version of the TL. It retained the PoD from the second but I finally began to consider the wider implications of the changes I was making, removing the OTL with the serial numbers filed off nature of the TL. The TL grew slowly and organically, leading to world radically different from the OTL, almost unrecognisable in fact. I received a great deal of useful constructive criticism from others as the TL progressed. This often led to substantial changes to previous events, requiring frequent rewrites to incorporate these improvements. I was happy with this iteration and work continued for some time. Sadly life intervened and my work slowed and eventually halted for two years. This break has actually proved to be a boon. I frequently intended to resume work on the TL and re-examined it. These re-examinations showed many faults, particularly in the first 50 or so years. Correcting these flaws in the existing work would be impossible. These very early changes will inevitable impact the entire TL, effectively requiring a complete rewrite. One of the most important changes required is actually the PoD, it is far too radical a change. Changing this alone will impact every subsequent event. Hence the reboot.

The Third Iteration
The biggest issue with your line of thinking is that British India governed not for the interests of Indian people, but in the interests of the British Crown.
India basically had a literacy rate of only 12% in 1947, while the Princely state of Travancore had a 48% rate.
You are assuming that the country was governed particularly well, when in reality it was not. Australia was one of the wealthiest regions in the world despite being the least arable continent, while British India was very backward in comparison with millions dying in mega-famines. Even British Ceylon in comparison was one of the wealthiest regions in all of Asia, and British Burma was the second wealthiest region per capita in Asia second to Japan.
India never had the large, polished Anglicized Middle Class as you claim. In fact, today it does not have, with only 10% of population speaking English.

Hypothetically creating such a situation will heavily divide Indian society, will likely culminate in internal strife or even a Civil conflict. Indians culture is probably the most alien to British culture. Islam aside, Hinduism has more in common with the Ancient Mesopotamian, Egyptian and Hellenistic cultures than it has with the Anglo-Saxon heritage of the CANZUK countries.
In the long run, Indian society will not fully assimilate into Western Culture. It is already a huge struggle with Russia, and it will be an even greater one with India...
I don't want to accuse you of plain ignorance, but your understanding of India is quite clouded.

It is not a realistic goal to have India or even Ceylon as part of the Imperial Confederation. A more realistic possibility is to include a Gibraltar-like port that is majority British or Anglo-Indian in population.
Even so, there's the possibility of the Suez being blocked.
The in that case a linkage along the Atlantic must be needed. A possibility is Cape Town.

1. A Gibraltar on the Indian Ocean: This port will be deliberately created as a Burgher majority city. It will become a low-end alternative for Colombo and Bombay. The British will settle British, Anglo-Indians, and Burgher people to create an Indian Ocean Gibraltar. This may be on India or in Ceylon. Another possibility is Aden.
2. CANZUK Union: A decentralized setup like the EU. Basically what BoJo is going for ATM.
3. A Gibraltar on the Atlantic: A possibility is Cape Town forming it's own territory.
 

tex mex

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July 1880: After their victories at Jalalabad and Kabul the British have been expanding their control over Afghanistan and order has been restored to much of the country, with it expected it will be finally pacified within a few months.
Pashtuns will never accept anything less than Orthodox Islam.
When Emperor Akbar proclaimed his Din i-Ilahi religion, the Pashtuns revolted under their leader Pir Roshan.
When Gurgin Khan, the Safavid governor was found with a Bible, he was killed and the Pashtuns under Mirwais Hotak overthrew and destroyed the Safavid Empire.
When thousands of Gurgin Khans and Polytheists occupy Afghanistan, do not expect a docile Afghan.
 
The biggest issue with your line of thinking is that British India governed not for the interests of Indian people, but in the interests of the British Crown.
India basically had a literacy rate of only 12% in 1947, while the Princely state of Travancore had a 48% rate.
You are assuming that the country was governed particularly well, when in reality it was not. Australia was one of the wealthiest regions in the world despite being the least arable continent, while British India was very backward in comparison with millions dying in mega-famines. Even British Ceylon in comparison was one of the wealthiest regions in all of Asia, and British Burma was the second wealthiest region per capita in Asia second to Japan.
India never had the large, polished Anglicized Middle Class as you claim. In fact, today it does not have, with only 10% of population speaking English.

Hypothetically creating such a situation will heavily divide Indian society, will likely culminate in internal strife or even a Civil conflict. Indians culture is probably the most alien to British culture. Islam aside, Hinduism has more in common with the Ancient Mesopotamian, Egyptian and Hellenistic cultures than it has with the Anglo-Saxon heritage of the CANZUK countries.
In the long run, Indian society will not fully assimilate into Western Culture. It is already a huge struggle with Russia, and it will be an even greater one with India...
I don't want to accuse you of plain ignorance, but your understanding of India is quite clouded.

It is not a realistic goal to have India or even Ceylon as part of the Imperial Confederation. A more realistic possibility is to include a Gibraltar-like port that is majority British or Anglo-Indian in population.
Even so, there's the possibility of the Suez being blocked.
The in that case a linkage along the Atlantic must be needed. A possibility is Cape Town.

1. A Gibraltar on the Indian Ocean: This port will be deliberately created as a Burgher majority city. It will become a low-end alternative for Colombo and Bombay. The British will settle British, Anglo-Indians, and Burgher people to create an Indian Ocean Gibraltar. This may be on India or in Ceylon. Another possibility is Aden.
2. CANZUK Union: A decentralized setup like the EU. Basically what BoJo is going for ATM.
3. A Gibraltar on the Atlantic: A possibility is Cape Town forming it's own territory.

Pan Indian nationalism is a product of the Raj, created by the growing Indian middle class from the 1870s onwards. What this TL does is head off that growing middle class in a different direction. Indian nationalism is inevitable, that it takes a pan Indian form is not.

Here Indian nationalism follows regional lines. That large anglised class is being created in this TL, kind of the whole point. The policies of the British ITTL are quite different, rather than trying to deal with Indian nationalism by giving as little as possible to try keep it at bay, they're giving much more and subverting the moderate middle class elements into the existing power structure. It can be surprisingly effective.
 
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Pashtuns will never accept anything less than Orthodox Islam.
When Emperor Akbar proclaimed his Din i-Ilahi religion, the Pashtuns revolted under their leader Pir Roshan.
When Gurgin Khan, the Safavid governor was found with a Bible, he was killed and the Pashtuns under Mirwais Hotak overthrew and destroyed the Safavid Empire.
When thousands of Gurgin Khans and Polytheists occupy Afghanistan, do not expect a docile Afghan.

The peace settlement is more or less a straight cut'n'paste from the OTL. But ITTL the first major Afghan uprising followed five years later.
 
Thank you. I've always wanted to save the Empire of Brazil, just never been able to figure a way which would tie back to the PoD. It will be interesting to see what the effect of a more liberal Brazil is.
Definitely, it's something I've seen explored in another thread I'm following so I'll be intrigued to see what you do with it. Of course the biggest question will be what happens when Pedro II kicks the bucket in a couple of years.

I like how you're slowly building up Anglo-American tensions, without making it seem like a war is inevitable or even desirable, or making one side or the other be portrayed as clearly "better" than the other. I ope it can stay that way.

I do think the changes in the US make sense - 1884 was a close run thing OTL so it's not hard to see a couple thousand votes swing the other way even if Cleveland still won the popular vote (a similar split happened in 1888 OTL). The worse response to the Chileans in Panama was interesting even if it didn't lead to war. (There's another TL on here featuring a full-on US-Chile conflict in 1885 - the result was, shall we say, not good for the USN.) And given that all the elections from 1876-1888 were close, it'd make sense for Cleveland to win in 1888. 1892 will depend on who the Republicans put up against Cleveland, there'll also be vote-splitting from the Populists to consider. If Cleveland holds on in 1892 a swing back to the Republicans by 1896 makes sens the Panic of 1893 or something similar occurs here.

Another thing to consider is that the US has been a bit more assertive with its power projection umder Blaine here than it was under Cleveland's first term OTL, and thus the other countries in the Americas will have to take that into consideration.. We're already seeing this with some South American countries led by Chile seemingly aligning more closely with the UK. The next big question for the US will be if a Spanish-American War still occurs - given the lack of mentions of Spain or Cuba so far, I'd say it's more likely than not. There's also the question of a Panama Canal or similar - IIRC Colombia has started drifting towards Chile and the UK so that could get interesting. Or maybe we see the US opt for that old AH trope of the Nicaragua Canal instead if Panama isn't an option...
 
Definitely, it's something I've seen explored in another thread I'm following so I'll be intrigued to see what you do with it. Of course the biggest question will be what happens when Pedro II kicks the bucket in a couple of years.

It wasn't that hard to head off the coup, the tricky but was tying it to the PoD. It will be interesting to see what happens. Brazil has immense potential and if it can stay a liberal democracy and avoid juntaism it should end up being a very powerful state. I look at it as the Japan of South America.

I like how you're slowly building up Anglo-American tensions, without making it seem like a war is inevitable or even desirable, or making one side or the other be portrayed as clearly "better" than the other. I ope it can stay that way.

I do think the changes in the US make sense - 1884 was a close run thing OTL so it's not hard to see a couple thousand votes swing the other way even if Cleveland still won the popular vote (a similar split happened in 1888 OTL). The worse response to the Chileans in Panama was interesting even if it didn't lead to war. (There's another TL on here featuring a full-on US-Chile conflict in 1885 - the result was, shall we say, not good for the USN.) And given that all the elections from 1876-1888 were close, it'd make sense for Cleveland to win in 1888. 1892 will depend on who the Republicans put up against Cleveland, there'll also be vote-splitting from the Populists to consider. If Cleveland holds on in 1892 a swing back to the Republicans by 1896 makes sens the Panic of 1893 or something similar occurs here.

The 1884 election came down to 1,149 votes in New York. If it had gone the other way, Blaine would have been president. However the stranglehold of the Republicans was going to break sooner or later, ITTL it broke in 1888. The McKinley tariff shoots the Republicans in the foot.

Another thing to consider is that the US has been a bit more assertive with its power projection umder Blaine here than it was under Cleveland's first term OTL, and thus the other countries in the Americas will have to take that into consideration.. We're already seeing this with some South American countries led by Chile seemingly aligning more closely with the UK. The next big question for the US will be if a Spanish-American War still occurs - given the lack of mentions of Spain or Cuba so far, I'd say it's more likely than not. There's also the question of a Panama Canal or similar - IIRC Colombia has started drifting towards Chile and the UK so that could get interesting. Or maybe we see the US opt for that old AH trope of the Nicaragua Canal instead if Panama isn't an option...

South America gets interesting. The ABC powers are big enough to stand up to the US, the rest not so much. But a lot of Cleveland's foreign policy will be dedicated to undoing Blaine's damage.
 
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