Why Did Bosnia and Albania Convert When No One Else Did?

That's correct, there is no clear evidence that the medieval Bosnian church such as it was had any links to the bogomilism that originated in Bulgaria.
I've seen a suggestion that it was actually a 'Slavonic Catholic' church, i.e. using Old Church Slavonic (written in the Glagolitic script, rather than in Cyrillic as the Orthodox slavs favoured) as its liturgical language but acknowledging papal authority in matters of doctrine.
 
I've seen a suggestion that it was actually a 'Slavonic Catholic' church, i.e. using Old Church Slavonic (written in the Glagolitic script, rather than in Cyrillic as the Orthodox slavs favoured) as its liturgical language but acknowledging papal authority in matters of doctrine.

It was somewhat based on Slavonic Catholic traditions, and was using the local language as far as we know, how close the used language was to Old Church Slavonic has not yet been determined. Also at the time Glagolitic was mostly confined to Croatia (which at that time included current western Herzegovina and western Bosnia). The scripts that were used were evolved forms of Cyrillic called Bosančica and 'Arvatica (IOW Bosnian and Croatian Cyrillic script).
 

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marko, I have finished historical studies and I have a doctorship title on issue of medieval world and especialy the balkans. bogomilism in bosnia was not the same
as the one in bulgaria that is obvious. the bosnian bogomils never called themself that way as a matter of fact. they called themself simply Krstjani Bosanski and the church was called Crkva Bosanska. the bogomils, patarens and baboons are just names that the members of other religions called them. but any way one thing is sure and that is that they existed. if you want to further discuss this issue start a new thread and pm me the link :)
 
marko, I have finished historical studies and I have a doctorship title on issue of medieval world and especialy the balkans. bogomilism in bosnia was not the same
as the one in bulgaria that is obvious. the bosnian bogomils never called themself that way as a matter of fact. they called themself simply Krstjani Bosanski and the church was called Crkva Bosanska. the bogomils, patarens and baboons are just names that the members of other religions called them. but any way one thing is sure and that is that they existed. if you want to further discuss this issue start a new thread and pm me the link :)

Nice to see a fellow collegue (in a way at least, I am currently finishing my masters in medieval archaeology with focus on the south slavic world) on the site :)

I don't see how what you say contradicts what I have stated. :confused:


I am allways interested in a discussion.

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As I once saw it put in a book "A Bulgar boy is taken from his home and trained as a Janissary. Later, he marries a Bulgar girl; but he is now a Turk, and his descendants from that day to this are classed as Turks".

It was more complicated than that. Depending on place and time, a Janissary could even not perceive himself or his group as a "Turk". His loyalty was mostly about dynasty, state, or religion, approximately in that order (not to mention the loyalty to Janissaries as comrades and Janissaridom as an institution) with ethnicity hardly considered relevant at all, and, when taken into account, mostly (but not exclusively, especially in Bulgaria and Albania) through a religious frame.
Ivo Andric novels and stories for example show those patterns rather well (though there was maybe some small degree of idealization of the Ottoman times as opposed to the age of nationalism,) and they were extremely flexible, complex, and shifting.
 
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