Who's up for an African Revolutionary War?

[Clibanarius]

So I would like to do a TL where The British Colonize Africa on the same level that they did the East of America and the African Colonies join together and rebel around the same or shortly after the Americans do.

What are you thoughts and comments on this?

 

[black angel]

Sierra Leone did in 1799, many where Americans by way of Nova Scotia, rather pissed that the Sierra Leone Company wouldn't let them own their land.

 

[Jester]

Sierra Leone did in 1799, many where Americans by way of Nova Scotia, rather pissed that the Sierra Leone Company wouldn't let them own their land.

While the OP wasn't well thought out, this had absolutely nothing to do with it.

So I would like to do a TL where The British Colonize Africa on the same level that they did the East of America and the African Colonies join together and rebel around the same or shortly after the Americans do.

What are you thoughts and comments on this?

The question is: where? There is a reason there was only one major "settler" colony that resulted from all of African colonization.

 

[black angel]

While the OP wasn't well thought out, this had absolutely nothing to do with it.

so a revolt in British colonial Africa around the time of the American Revolution has nothing to do with his question? really?

 

[Jester]

The British Colonize Africa on the same level that they did the East of America

So no, it had absolutely nothing to do with the OP.

 

[black angel]

The question is: where? There is a reason there was only one major "settler" colony that resulted from all of African colonization.

I can count 3, maybe more.

 

[black angel]

The British Colonize Africa on the same level that they did the East of America

So no, it had absolutely nothing to do with the OP.

lets see, I pointed out people being settled in Africa and rebeling around the same/shortly after the Americans do, or can only white people settle? clearly it wasn't ass settled as America but its a base a start.

 

[Jester]

I can count 3, maybe more.

Sierra Leone and Liberia don't count any more than the evolues of Francafrique or the pied-noirs of Algeria count. Don't try and twist the definition of a settler colony- Australia counts, India doesn't and so on.

South Africa was the only large scale settler colony and the only one that developed a white demographic that was more than just a drop in the bucket and didn't evaporate when the colonial powers withdrew.

 

[Jester]

lets see, I pointed out people being settled in Africa and rebeling around the same/shortly after the Americans do, or can only white people settle? clearly it wasn't ass settled as America but its a base a start.

Don't even try and pull the racism card on me. I know how much you like Ian Smith and tinpot apartheid.

Liberia and Sierra Leone do not qualify as settler colonies due to both the small (comparatively) amount of migration there, the lifestyle of the "settlers" (who in both Sierra Leone and Liberia worked more as administrators or planter nobility than as actual settlers) and the overall concentration of the settlers (most of whom did not move away from either Monrovia or Freetown)

It is not because they were Black colonization efforts.

 

[black angel]

Sierra Leone and Liberia don't count any more than the evolues of Francafrique or the pied-noirs of Algeria count. Don't try and twist the definition of a settler colony- Australia counts, India doesn't and so on.

South Africa was the only large scale settler colony and the only one that developed a white demographic that was more than just a drop in the bucket and didn't evaporate when the colonial powers withdrew.

South Africa is the same as Australia? also Sierra Leone has as many Creole descendants of freed Jamaican slaves as South Africa has whites, and Namibia is 6% white so thats at lest 3 right there (if South Africa is the standard) if Australia is the standard and you need to wipe out the natives for there to be a settler colony than Africa has none and never has.

 

[black angel]

Liberia and Sierra Leone do not qualify as settler colonies due to both the small (comparatively) amount of migration there, the lifestyle of the "settlers" (who in both Sierra Leone and Liberia worked more as administrators or planter nobility than as actual settlers) and the overall concentration of the settlers (most of whom did not move away from either Monrovia or Freetown)

as below, in Sierra Leone there are as many setter descendants as South African whites, and in Liberia a smaller number of American-Liberians controlled Liberia from 1840 till the 1980s or so.

 

[black angel]

Don't even try and pull the racism card on me. I know how much you like Ian Smith and tinpot apartheid.

prove it, show one post ONE were I said I liked Ian or his government or thought it was a good thing, go try, I'll wait, it'll be cute

 

[Jester]

South Africa is the same as Australia? also Sierra Leone has as many Creole descendants of freed Jamaican slaves as South Africa has whites, and Namibia is 6% white so thats at lest 3 right there (if South Africa is the standard) if Australia is the standard and you need to wipe out the natives for there to be a settler colony than Africa has none and never has.

First off, I understand you have trouble reading, but I didn't say that Australia and South Africa are the same. I said Australia is a settler colony and so is South Africa.

Now, how big is Sierra Leone? How many different centers of settlement can you point out? There is a difference of scale, BA. Sierra Leone's settlement was ridiculously small compared to that seen in South Africa.

As to Namibia, what settlement effort pushed the majority Afrikaner whites there? Oh, right, British efforts in South Africa. Sorry I didn't list all the administrative divisions for you.

 

[Jester]

prove it, show one post ONE were I said I liked Ian or his government or thought it was a good thing, go try, I'll wait, it'll be cute

Oh no, you just said that blacks winning the Bush War lead to cholera and AIDs which wouldn't happen under white-ruled Rhodesia. You squirmed your way out of saying how much you admired Ian Smith then tried to make up for it by praising Mandela with a quick look at Wikipedia (and even managed to mess that up).

 

[black angel]

First off, I understand you have trouble reading, but I didn't say that Australia and South Africa are the same. I said Australia is a settler colony and so is South Africa.

you said that "Australia counts, India doesn't and so on" than go on to talk about South Africa, so where's the middle ground on that, because one is 99% white, the other didn't have any real white settlement, 12% is closer to 0 than it is to 100%.

also small countries don't count is the dumbest thing I've ever heard

 

[Jester]

As to the OP- an earlier British seizure of the Cape Colony might work, but I don't see a way to make it contemporaneous with the American Revolutionary War without changing so much as to completely change it as we know it.

 

[Jester]

you said that "Australia counts, India doesn't and so on" than go on to talk about South Africa, so where's the middle ground on that, because one is 99% white, the other didn't have any real white settlement, 12% is closer to 0 than it is to 100%.

also small countries don't count is the dumbest thing I've ever heard

Little known fact is that New York City was once a settler colony of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Give me a break- scale does matter.

 

[black angel]

Oh no, you just said that blacks winning the Bush War lead to cholera and AIDs which wouldn't happen under white-ruled Rhodesia. You squirmed your way out of saying how much you admired Ian Smith then tried to make up for it by praising Mandela with a quick look at Wikipedia (and even managed to mess that up).

see I was right that was cute I asked for a quote and SHOCKER you couldn't do it you're so adorable! and I said Robert Mugabe winning lead to cholera and AIDS (the S is capitalized, its not Acquired immune deficiency's) and I never said I admired Ian Smith that made me laugh thanks hun

 

[black angel]

Little known fact is that New York City was once a settler colony of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Give me a break- scale does matter.

Plymouth Colony was founded by 102 settlers. it always starts small, and as I pointed out it did grow, 10% of the population today

 

[black angel]

As to the OP- an earlier British seizure of the Cape Colony might work, but I don't see a way to make it contemporaneous with the American Revolutionary War without changing so much as to completely change it as we know it.

I don't see that happening, just no reason for them to do it.