Who's The Doctor? A TL
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Could we see the Batman movie next? The timeline is around when the first Burton film was released.
There is no Batman movie ITTL, for reasons I'll get into later. A list of prospective DC movies was listed earlier in the timeline.
Is it because there's no '89 Batman movie or is it because there's no Batman movies ever? Batman is one of the most important heroes at DC. Logically that means a movie some time down the line. I just asked about the '89 film because it was one of the few things I remember that was released in '89. Which you'd cover before moving on to the 90's
Green Lantern is the movie chosen to be a new DC movie franchise ITTL. A Batman movie may occur, but not until the mid-late 90's at the earliest.
It's not a problem. At least we can avoid Batman and Robin entirely. How are they going to do the ring effects with 80's special effects?
That'll be looked into but CGI is more advanced than OTL with the Ghostbusters TV show helping to push it forward a bit.
So practical effects enhanced with CGI? The constructs would be physical props but the sequence where they are created is CG. Terminator 2 was around that time and the effects have aged pretty well. So if CGI is better than what created the T1000 then Green Lantern's going to do just fine. Is Sam Raimi going to end up directing a superhero movie? Are video game film adaptations going to be less stigmatized due to Ultima and Metal Gear showing that they can be good?
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Basically, yes. Be done as it was done in Terminator Two as you say. Sam Raimi might pop up at some point. Video game adaptations do have a better reputation as there's been three good movies on them so far, but it'll take time to get one off the ground due to what's happened in Boston.
I'm just curious if the Ghostbusters series has Walter Peck? Bill Murray would be good for the part, and so would Chevy Chase. He'd be good as a minor recurring antagonist. You've said how the different castings for the characters changed them, so how does having Crystal and Ebersole as Tully and Barrett change them? It'd be good to have a recurring human antagonist, especially in the years without the big special effects budgets.
Louis is certainly less nebbish in his casting and sardonic towards Venkman when the love triangle heated up slightly. A Human antagonist was usually provided by the ghosts taking on Human form. Any opposition coming from actual people was generally one off episodes with Peter Falk providing the major antagonist as a Human face in the last series.
Could we end up seeing Rickman's unnamed starship captain redeem himself in a movie? It seems like it'd be possible for a future movie to write him better now that the "Roddenberry Box" has been permanently destroyed. Though I don't think anything short of a heroic sacrifice would bring his character into higher esteem in the fanbase. Like if he dies in the course of whatever the equivalent of "Generations" is instead of Kirk.
It'll remain to be seen regarding that. I'll get back into Star Trek at some point when I get into the 1990's but Rickman might be reluctant to leave his other sci-fi gig to take it on.
If there's no recurring human villain then there should be at least one recurring ghost. Ivo Shandor was a seriously interesting character that remained basically background information for like two decades before the video game happened. He did set up the events of OTL's Ghostbusters movie. We should at least know how he got defeated back in the day.
A riff on "Yesterday's Enterprise" could be fun as well. OTL that's been thrown around by TNG's staff as a plot they should've saved for the movies.
It'd be a better explanation of why Kirk hasn't aged a day since the movies than "trapped in glowing space ribbon". And sacrificing yourself to restore the timeline would be a better death than literally getting a bridge dropped on him. Honestly I agree that "Yesterday's Enterprise" would make a good movie. I'm guessing that by the time TNG got to Season 3 the show would be completely unrecognizable.
Just binged this; really fun stuff! I love the perversely intriguing idea of John Denver as an "aww, shucks" guitar-playing Dr. Who. I even want to see the infamous "ballad-off" with the Daleks now, LOL! The follow-on Doctors are a nice back-and-forth change in temperament as well (OMFG Time War FTW!!) and the growing US/UK fan rivalry is a great twist. Ghostbusters the Series, earlier mainstreaming of Anime in America, a lessened crash to videogames...all around fun TL!
Agree that Alan Rickman needs a Trek redemption! I'd have loved to see him as a captain, and if I'd lived ITTL I probably would have died when my likely two favorite shows were suddenly in the same time slot. "Damn it, TiVo, get invented already!"
Q: what's Jim Henson up to ITTL? OTL the 80s were his golden era and I can really see him getting into Dr. Who and the Nelvana-ported anime stuff. OTL he was deeply involved with both Denver and the BBC (who produced the Muppet Show). Muppet Babies was such a cash cow that there was talk of him buying Disney instead of the other way around! (I always wanted to do that TL, but time is a harsh mistress). ATL he might see Nelvana as a good alternative to selling the Muppets to Disney (he'd been in discussions for this OTL even before his death to make time and $$ for more "creative" stuff). The Mouse, the Bear, and the Frog?? If you at least butterfly his tragic OTL death I'll email you a chocolate cake. The cake is a lie.
Agree that Alan Rickman needs a Trek redemption! I'd have loved to see him as a captain, and if I'd lived ITTL I probably would have died when my likely two favorite shows were suddenly in the same time slot. "Damn it, TiVo, get invented already!"
Q: what's Jim Henson up to ITTL? OTL the 80s were his golden era and I can really see him getting into Dr. Who and the Nelvana-ported anime stuff. OTL he was deeply involved with both Denver and the BBC (who produced the Muppet Show). Muppet Babies was such a cash cow that there was talk of him buying Disney instead of the other way around! (I always wanted to do that TL, but time is a harsh mistress). ATL he might see Nelvana as a good alternative to selling the Muppets to Disney (he'd been in discussions for this OTL even before his death to make time and $$ for more "creative" stuff). The Mouse, the Bear, and the Frog?? If you at least butterfly his tragic OTL death I'll email you a chocolate cake. The cake is a lie.
Not sure how that much continuity would work regarding a movie. Something that brings together the Captains of the Enterprise could easily work though.
It was closer to OTL's DS9 towards the third series of TTL's Next Generation. Getting darker with the writers toying with ideas for story arcs, but Ghostbusters slaughtering them in the ratings basically killed off any hopes with that.
I'm glad you've enjoyed and thanks for those words. In truth, I think I'd have been one of those people who'd have enjoyed Denver's Doctor, if I'd ever gotten around to watching it. Brett and Bean were reactions against those who followed and I honestly believe Brett would have been brilliant in the role, however he chose to play it as.
Rickman will get a chance to show what he can do, and will do so in an entirely different sci-fi show.
I hadn't thought too much about the Muppets truth be told, but that's a strong way to lead it for Henson. The Muppets going over to another company is entirely possible, especially since Nelvana ITTL are trying to go for quality above all and be what Disney isn't. This might just come back to bite them later on though.
If the trend of reactions against the previous doctor continues can we end up seeing a cynical Doctor played by Alan Rickman? Or is he going to end up in another science fiction series entirely?
Speaking of other science fiction series: Is Quantum Leap still a thing? I want to know because it's one of the few television series I've watched from beginning to end. It honestly has a place in my heart that even Star Trek doesn't have. Plus it started in '89. Which is where the timeline is at currently. Would the show be affected by the rise of Urban Sci-Fi? Other than a few science fiction (and later supernatural) elements it was Sam Beckett dealing with normal situations faced by people on Earth. I just want a show that I love to do well, and it doesn't seem like it would be unreasonable here.
Maybe not Yesterday's Enterprise exactly, but a time travel plot could still work. Especially if TNG is still set like 70 years after the Original Series.
Speaking of other science fiction series: Is Quantum Leap still a thing? I want to know because it's one of the few television series I've watched from beginning to end. It honestly has a place in my heart that even Star Trek doesn't have. Plus it started in '89. Which is where the timeline is at currently. Would the show be affected by the rise of Urban Sci-Fi? Other than a few science fiction (and later supernatural) elements it was Sam Beckett dealing with normal situations faced by people on Earth. I just want a show that I love to do well, and it doesn't seem like it would be unreasonable here.
Maybe not Yesterday's Enterprise exactly, but a time travel plot could still work. Especially if TNG is still set like 70 years after the Original Series.
Rickman won't be involved in Doctor Who, at least not for the foreseeable future.
I'll touch upon Quantum Leap in a later update, but be looking into the fallout for video games in the next one.
It can be done, certainly.