white slavery

mowque

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White people die like flies in malaria regions like the American South and the Caribbean. It won't work. trust me, they tried.
 
They were called Indentured servants. Problem is, they had a habit of running off once they got there and not living up to the agreement.
 
The reason for African slaves was that they were used to hot humid climates, like the American south. White slaves would be redundant.
 
They tried. Irish indentured servants can't do as well as the Africans could on plantations etc.

Whereas the Irish got the worst of it as usual, I must stress that people from all parts of the British isles were liable for indentured servitude if they got on the wrong side of the prevailing regime.
 
Whereas the Irish got the worst of it as usual, I must stress that people from all parts of the British isles were liable for indentured servitude if they got on the wrong side of the prevailing regime.

Temporary indentured servitude was also a common punishment for minor crimes.
 
i think they did try, i saw something on the history channel about the highland clearances, and apparently part of one of the clans were shipped off into slavery in one of the carribean islands, i think it was more then 100 people, all of maybe 4 or 5 actually survived to return to scotland.
 
i think they did try, i saw something on the history channel about the highland clearances, and apparently part of one of the clans were shipped off into slavery in one of the carribean islands, i think it was more then 100 people, all of maybe 4 or 5 actually survived to return to scotland.

That was long before the high period of the clearances - it only just overlapped at all around the 1730s or so - and the Highlanders frequently did it to one-another. Again: being 'shipped' was not a very outlandish thing in Britain in the 17th and early 18th centuries. We continued to do it until the middle of the 10th century, in fact, but through different mechanisms.
 

yourworstnightmare

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what if colonists brought over white slaves instead of black ones
what would have happened
Well, the first Spanish colonists brought some of their slave with them to the Caribbeans. Many Africans of course, but also Berbers, Canarians and Bosnian Slavs (very few of course, since Spain wasn't a big buyer of Bosnians). We actually don't know much about their fate, either they died, or were just assimilated into the main settler culture, given that children of slaves were free according to the tradition of the time (since they were born Christian).
 
They can trace through sources 50,000 Irish slaves sent to the West Indies and North America in the 1600's they reckon it could be between 80,000 and 150,000 sent over. If you read some of the letters of the time you can see its slavery not Penal servitude. But yeah as I said before on another thread the Irish weren't able in the heat probably got too costly as they kept dying from heat related illness's and diseases, also they revolted every now and then. TG4(Irish channel) made a great documentary of people in the Carribbean descendant from these, one particular group they only knew they came from county Clare didn't know their surnames and they lived in the poorest conditions on the Island outcasts, I think it was in Bermuda or Bahamas, most integrated with the African population in Montserrat in particular Irish was spoken until 100 years ago.
 
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