White American Theocracy

[Wolfpaw]

Thomas Paine is going to love that. It might work better if the British decide to start stamping on colonial churches in general.

That could certainly help to radicalize things. Imposing Anglicanism (or confessional oversight of some kind) in the rebellious Colonies to "ensure loyalty to the Crown."

More stringent "no preaching without a license" laws could also help, along with the fact that Colonists are probably going to be frustrated at the Crown-protected Indian lands in the Trans-Appalachia.

 

[Wolfpaw]

I feel like William Miller could be a good "Armed Prophet."

 

[Plumber]

I feel like this may be easier in a "Failed American Revolution" scenario. Failed revolutions often tend to radicalize folk, and I could easily see "God didn't let us win because we weren't devout enough" becoming a thing.

Perhaps a uniquely American confession emerges, like some sort of reactive hybrid in response to continued British domination (assuming the Brits keep treating Colonials poorly). An underground "Columbian Church" or something like that which mixes militant Christianity with radical fervor.

Now there's an idea. It's plausible enough to give me the shivers.

Andrew Jackson got pretty much all of his formal teaching in Presbyterian Church. Four hours every Sunday or so.

 

[Wolfpaw]

Now there's an idea. It's plausible enough to give me the shivers.

I aims to chill

 

[Lord Grattan]

Now there's an idea. It's plausible enough to give me the shivers.

Andrew Jackson got pretty much all of his formal teaching in Presbyterian Church. Four hours every Sunday or so.

A religious upbringing scared, twisted and perverted by the boot and sword of British tyranny.

 

[Plumber]

I aims to chill

How's 3.0 going?

 

[Wolfpaw]

How's 3.0 going?

Slowly, unfortunately. School and all that. But, summer is coming

 

[Plumber]

Slowly, unfortunately. School and all that. But, summer is coming

Ah, all right. That's the first TL I read and I've always been fond of it.

 

[Wolfpaw]

The Rebel standard!

 

[Wolfpaw]

Ah, all right. That's the first TL I read and I've always been fond of it.

Well thanks for making my day!

 

[Plumber]

Well thanks for making my day!

I aim to please.

 

[Evan]

That could certainly help to radicalize things. Imposing Anglicanism (or confessional oversight of some kind) in the rebellious Colonies to "ensure loyalty to the Crown."

The Founding Fathers (or their radical pamphleteer allies) accused the Crown of planning to do doing exactly that. From all appearances, they weren't IOTL; all they were even considering doing was appointing a few priests and maybe even a bishop or two to colonial parishes. But I think it's just barely plausible that after a failed revolution, they might try it...

 

[CaliBoy1990]

What would be the best series of events to make the United States of America a real theocracy? I'm just thinking about how bad it could really get. Militarist, heavily influenced by evangelical churches, white-supremacist, lots of HUAC-like organs to purge the country of "dangerous" and "anti-Christian" elements, etc. etc.

To do this I think you'd need to detach the most secular and liberal parts of the country from the USA, such as the Pacific states and the northeast. Also, I wonder what POD could lead to successful black revolutions in the southeast that succeed in creating independent ethnic republics.

Any ideas for PODs to totally trash the American dream and replace it with something much darker?

Not in any OTL-based TL scenario, no. Decades of Darkness, on the other hand, provides the perfect breeding ground for such, at least in more conservative areas of the *U.S.A.

 

[superjames1992]

I don't see any plausible timeline with a POD after the Civil War (barring a nuclear war and its aftermath, at least).

 

[SergeantHeretic]

That is not what Easterling said though:

Hmm Thinking a bout it, I am forced to agree, the "Revolution" would never get past endless and endlessly contentious meetings.

 

[revolutionincyberspace]

Im not sure how to have the theocracy only white american. Now, some 'Republic of Gilead' type shit which is non racial I can expect. Also I'd expect the theocratic state to be basically under the logic of 'if you identify as a christian you are allowed to practice'

 

[Samm]

Yeah I have never been able to understand why people assume that an American theocracy would also be racist. From what I have read theocracies are often very racially inclusive of anyone who will adopt their religion.

 

[Hnau]

Hey, I never said I assume that any American theocracy would be racist. I mean, the name of the thread is "White American Theocracy". Why? Because I want to see a dystopic white-supremacist American theocracy. Making an inclusive American theocracy would be still difficult, but easier, certainly. I'd like to see some secessionist black republics in the southeast and an all-out race war, something like that.

 

[Wolfpaw]

Hey, I never said I assume that any American theocracy would be racist. I mean, the name of the thread is "White American Theocracy". Why? Because I want to see a dystopic white-supremacist American theocracy. Making an inclusive American theocracy would be still difficult, but easier, certainly. I'd like to see some secessionist black republics in the southeast and an all-out race war, something like that.

I'm sure you could work in some legislation discriminating against the "Sons of Ham" or something like that; dark skin could become a latter-day "mark of Cain."

Another way to make things more theocratic might be a law or something that ties voting registration/eligibility to local church membership.

 

[Baconheimer]

W e could justifyy invasions of central-america as "crusades". Of course immagration would be a problem, no Irish, no Eastren Europeons, No ItaTlians, n o Jews, America woulsd be not very diverse.