Which Would You Prefer I Write a Timeline About?

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  • Ming China Continues Exploration

    Votes: 6 5.1%
  • Successful American Third Party

    Votes: 14 11.9%
  • Compact Rome

    Votes: 9 7.6%
  • Imperial Chichen Itza

    Votes: 9 7.6%
  • House of Hohenstaufen

    Votes: 11 9.3%
  • Union of Prussia and Denmark

    Votes: 10 8.5%
  • A Land of Kings

    Votes: 6 5.1%
  • No Hegemony in North America

    Votes: 31 26.3%
  • The Great Migrations- A Saxon Tale

    Votes: 6 5.1%
  • Bad Queen Bess

    Votes: 16 13.6%

  • Total voters
    118
Maybe during the Age of Migrations, when Rome falls or gets heavily beaten, Byzantion manages to conquer Roman territory around it and ends up owning most of Greece and Anatolia?
That sounds like a bit of wank. I'm going for realism with all of these. It would have to be a slower build up. Besides, I don't see how Byzantion can stay independent until the mid-300's unless it begins expansion early.


Use approval voting next time.
Yeah, that would have been a good idea :(
 
That sounds like a bit of wank. I'm going for realism with all of these. It would have to be a slower build up. Besides, I don't see how Byzantion can stay independent until the mid-300's unless it begins expansion early.

How's it a wank? When Rome collapses someone's got to pick up the pieces. If, as you portray, they have a sizable chunk of Anatolia and Greece, then they can easily take most of the rest.

Hell, Rome itself was a wank.



Or perhaps instead of it taking land from collapsing Rome, it could be a tributary that Rome never gets a chance to annex (being smaller and all that), and it actually becomes the successor to the Roman state. So we have a Greek state that becomes a Latin state rather than a Latin state that becomes a Greek state, like East Rome.
 
That population boom I mentioned could lead to a Chinese split, with the northern half possibly dominated by the Manchus. On a side note, didn't the Manchus found the Qing dynasty? I'm talking about the Ming (which is interesting, because you could have northern Qing and southern Ming dynasties).

I kinda doubt that, to be honest. The Manchu invasion was happened three centuries after the POD that I'm talking about...it's certainly an enough time for the Yuan Mongols to fully incorporate Manchuria into their empire (and an enough time for the butterflies to work, too). Especially if we considering the fact that the OTL Manchu ascension to power was somewhat opportunistic, if not because of the rebellious Ming generals Li Zicheng and Wu Sangui, the Manchus would never be able to take Beijing, let alone the rest of China...not to mention about the fact that the Ming was actually more than able to repeatedly fight off the Manchus in 1620s...

Anyway Yelnoc, I hope the ASB will give you the ability to divide yourself into ten, so that you can finish all of those TLs. :D
 
How's it a wank? When Rome collapses someone's got to pick up the pieces. If, as you portray, they have a sizable chunk of Anatolia and Greece, then they can easily take most of the rest.

Hell, Rome itself was a wank.



Or perhaps instead of it taking land from collapsing Rome, it could be a tributary that Rome never gets a chance to annex (being smaller and all that), and it actually becomes the successor to the Roman state. So we have a Greek state that becomes a Latin state rather than a Latin state that becomes a Greek state, like East Rome.

Oh, I thought you meant the little city state swallows up both peninsulas randomly; I didn't know you were working off my proposal. Sorry.

I'm thinking in this timeline Gaul will have a chance to establish a strong state. There is also the potential for an alternate fall of the Seleucid Empire.
 
The thing with the Hohenstaufens is that everyone assumes a single inheritor of Frederick II.
Give him at least 2 successful sons and while you may not get a Hohenstaufen Emperor you may get a Hohenstaufen Sicily/Burgundy/Jerusalem/Swabia...

I think it difficult to initially centralise the HRE but I think you can forestall mass decentralisation as OTL. So basically, larger duchies are considered desirable by the greater princes. While the emperor may be less powerful and hereditary the Electors will be more so more early wrt OTL.
 
I kinda doubt that, to be honest. The Manchu invasion was happened three centuries after the POD that I'm talking about...it's certainly an enough time for the Yuan Mongols to fully incorporate Manchuria into their empire (and an enough time for the butterflies to work, too). Especially if we considering the fact that the OTL Manchu ascension to power was somewhat opportunistic, if not because of the rebellious Ming generals Li Zicheng and Wu Sangui, the Manchus would never be able to take Beijing, let alone the rest of China...not to mention about the fact that the Ming was actually more than able to repeatedly fight off the Manchus in 1620s...

Anyway Yelnoc, I hope the ASB will give you the ability to divide yourself into ten, so that you can finish all of those TLs. :D

Looks like I must have misread your suggestion. What do you think about my idea to combine Chichen Itza and Chinese exploration?

And ha, thanks. At least I will have something else to do over the summer.

The thing with the Hohenstaufens is that everyone assumes a single inheritor of Frederick II.
Give him at least 2 successful sons and while you may not get a Hohenstaufen Emperor you may get a Hohenstaufen Sicily/Burgundy/Jerusalem/Swabia...

I think it difficult to initially centralise the HRE but I think you can forestall mass decentralisation as OTL. So basically, larger duchies are considered desirable by the greater princes. While the emperor may be less powerful and hereditary the Electors will be more so more early wrt OTL.
That is very interesting, very interesting indeed.
 
I selected No Hegemony in North America since that's something you don't usually see. But there's a reason you don't usually see it; I doubt Mexico would be able to really even get a white peace with the USA. My recommendation for that TL is to somehow make the USA less expansionist...maybe lose another war with the British. Then when the Mexican Empire collapses, a half dozen nations will emerge in North America.
 
Looks like I must have misread your suggestion. What do you think about my idea to combine Chichen Itza and Chinese exploration?

And ha, thanks. At least I will have something else to do over the summer.

What do I think?
IT'S FRIGGIN AWESOME!!!

More seriously, I will read whatever TL that you want to write ;)
 
Looks like I must have misread your suggestion. What do you think about my idea to combine Chichen Itza and Chinese exploration?
If you wanted to do this I would gladly help... After all, the few times I am asked to help with Maya things it's always about Mayapan or even later times than that.
 
If you wanted to do this I would gladly help... After all, the few times I am asked to help with Maya things it's always about Mayapan or even later times than that.

So you're Hresvelgr! I should pay more attention to the subtext....

Now that you mention it, I could definitely use some help. I have a good bit of the outline for the Chichen Itza section done; would you mind if I PMed it to you when I finish?
 
So you're Hresvelgr! I should pay more attention to the subtext....

Now that you mention it, I could definitely use some help. I have a good bit of the outline for the Chichen Itza section done; would you mind if I PMed it to you when I finish?
I wouldn't mind at all, I exist to help people with this stuff. :D
 
I suggest OTHER, where you describe the events of the War of 2424, when the Robotic Firelords from inside the Sun invaded the planets of the Solar System.
 
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