Which member of the House of Capet should continue the mainline Capets?

Which member of the mainline should continue the House of Capet?

  • Louis X

    Votes: 7 35.0%
  • Jean I

    Votes: 5 25.0%
  • Philippe V

    Votes: 7 35.0%
  • Charles IV

    Votes: 1 5.0%

  • Total voters
    20
  • Poll closed .
Blanche certainly did that's true.

I think her biggest weakness is there too, her mother was not reliable at all, so she was framed of being a bastard ... that's why she was kicked out of succession in the first place, so if they prove that Jeanne of Navarre was the true daughter of Louis, she could have been her successor, with Philippe V only being a long time regent
 
I think her biggest weakness is there too, her mother was not reliable at all, so she was framed of being a bastard ... that's why she was kicked out of succession in the first place, so if they prove that Jeanne of Navarre was the true daughter of Louis, she could have been her successor, with Philippe V only being a long time regent

But how would they prove Jeanne was trueborn? She was conceived after the affair started, so that's a huge question mark right there. Louis himself wasn't even sure the girl was legitimate or not
 
The Pope was Jean XXII, and I don't think they were sure about how to treat Jeanne when he was elected (maybe some noble with high interest could give money to the Pope)

He wasn't elected until 1316, just as Louis X was dying, at which point Philippe had already started his manouverings, and Clemence was pregnant.
 
He wasn't elected until 1316, just as Louis X was dying, at which point Philippe had already started his manouverings, and Clemence was pregnant.

Louis le Hutin or Jean Ier could have lived a bit longer, and a Pope could easily say that Philippe was not the true King (it would probably have started a succession war/crisis between Philippe's allies and those who wanted to influence the kingdom through a Regency council)
 
Louis le Hutin or Jean Ier could have lived a bit longer, and a Pope could easily say that Philippe was not the true King (it would probably have started a succession war/crisis between Philippe's allies and those who wanted to influence the kingdom through a Regency council)
If they’d lived longer ohilipee wouldn’t be kin anyway
 
I would have Louis X live just long enough for Jeanne to be an adult, so that when he dies Philippe won’t be in a position to try any shenanigans. The question however will be how would the French nobility react to an ruling Queen? If Jeanne was reared in the traditional way, it will be difficult for her to exercise power. If however Louis knows early on that Jeanne will be the heir, then he might mix in the traditional education of the heir to the throne in addition to her normal education, then Jeanne will have a somewhat smoother reign. However my suspicions tells me that Jeanne will need to put a rebellion or two in order to prove her authority.
 
I would have Louis X live just long enough for Jeanne to be an adult, so that when he dies Philippe won’t be in a position to try any shenanigans. The question however will be how would the French nobility react to an ruling Queen? If Jeanne was reared in the traditional way, it will be difficult for her to exercise power. If however Louis knows early on that Jeanne will be the heir, then he might mix in the traditional education of the heir to the throne in addition to her normal education, then Jeanne will have a somewhat smoother reign. However my suspicions tells me that Jeanne will need to put a rebellion or two in order to prove her authority.

In such a scenario much would depend on who she's married to, or indeed if she's married by the time she takes the throne.
 
I would have Louis X live just long enough for Jeanne to be an adult, so that when he dies Philippe won’t be in a position to try any shenanigans. The question however will be how would the French nobility react to an ruling Queen? If Jeanne was reared in the traditional way, it will be difficult for her to exercise power. If however Louis knows early on that Jeanne will be the heir, then he might mix in the traditional education of the heir to the throne in addition to her normal education, then Jeanne will have a somewhat smoother reign. However my suspicions tells me that Jeanne will need to put a rebellion or two in order to prove her authority.

If Louis X lived long enough for Jeanne to be adult at the time of his death, he would probably have at least another son : Clemence of Hungary was 18 yo at their wedding and would be 30 in 1327. Eleven more years of marriage would mean at least 8/9 pregnancies.
 
If Louis X lived long enough for Jeanne to be adult at the time of his death, he would probably have at least another son : Clemence of Hungary was 18 yo at their wedding and would be 30 in 1327. Eleven more years of marriage would mean at least 8/9 pregnancies.

She might have a complicated regency, she was something like 5, but I just checked and the question of "Is Jeanne authorized to inherit ?" found an answer in 1317 ... buy the Pope, change the world ! (Oh, and I know Isabelle of France was very popular through both French and English nobility, and she always wanted to prove that women could rule ...) I think the hardest part is to make her survive during her 10 years long regency, and find someone to educate her in a propoer way ...
 
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