She was candidate for Sigismund's wife IOTL.
Alright that would work
She was candidate for Sigismund's wife IOTL.
Generally Sweden and PLC have contradictory interests even without Charles' usurpation. But if Sigismund and Gustav keeps good relations like Sigi and Anna did IOTL foreign policy of both countries would change drastically-maybe instead of trying to change Baltic into "Swedish Lake" Gustav is happy with Baltic as "Vasa Lake"? PLC would have cooler relations with Habsburgs, Sweden would not ally with Russia during the Time of Troubles. Maybe we'll see return of Vienna-Moscow alliance?Alright that would work
Sounds good to me, and likely to make Russia shit herselfGenerally Sweden and PLC have contradictory interests even without Charles' usurpation. But if Sigismund and Gustav keeps good relations like Sigi and Anna did IOTL foreign policy of both countries would change drastically-maybe instead of trying to change Baltic into "Swedish Lake" Gustav is happy with Baltic as "Vasa Lake"? PLC would have cooler relations with Habsburgs, Sweden would not ally with Russia during the Time of Troubles. Maybe we'll see return of Vienna-Moscow alliance?
Maybe there will be Vasa-Vasa marriage in next generation to keep close ties between two branches? Say Gustav's daughter marry Sigismund's son (IOTL Władysław IV married late and had no legitimate surviving children, maybe his alternate version could be more successful).
A,righty Gustav it is then, king if Sweden from 1592, I do wonder who he might marry
Ooh now that would be somethingArbella Stewart. Sigi proposed to her after his first wife died. James VI was in favour of the match, since it removed a prospective rival, the lady was not, and pleaded that she could not marry without her sovereign (Elizabeth)'s permission. Of course, the relations IIRC between London and Warsaw were subzero after the Polish ambassador had insulted Liz at some point in the past.
Otherwise, Christine of Holstein is the best bet. Just wanted to mention Arbella for interest's sake.
As to @Behemoth's Vasa wank - looking forward to it. Please tell me we have a Vasa Czar (at least for a time) and a couple mad Vasas (Eriksens perhaps?) as well![]()
Somebody rang?
I don't recall mentioning writing a Vasa wank. Hmmm...
No worries. I know that I have mentioned writing a TL with mention of the Vasas in it before. I just don’t recall describing it as a wank.My bad, I shoulda checked before posting
As to @Svetonius21's Vasa wank - looking forward to it. Please tell me we have a Vasa Czar (at least for a time) and a couple mad Vasas (Eriksens perhaps?) as well
Yes please, though without the Vasa Czar (or perhaps only one, murdered by boyars as an excuse for another war, which will end with a three-way border on the ashes of moscow).
Marriage plans for next generation:John III Vasa (1537-1592). King of Sweden 1568-1592. Married:
1) Catherine Jagiellonica (1523-1583).
Children:
* Sigismund (1564-1635). King of Sweden 1592-1635. Married Christine of Holstein
* John II (1566-1632). King of Poland, Grand Duke of Lithuania 1587-1632. Married Anna of Austria.
* Isabella (1568-1570)
2) Gunilla Bielke (1568-1597)
* Gustav, Duke of Östergötland (1589-1625)
IntriguingMarriage plans for next generation:
Brandenburg girl for Swedish prince (like IOTL) is OK. Poland OTOH... If Vasa-Habsburg relations worsened ITTL could John II of Poland look for wife for his son in France perhaps? Especially if Henry IV's death is butterflied away-he despised Habsburgs so if he lives longer Habsburg marriages of his kids would not happen. And Polish-Swedish Vasa block is perfect ally against Emperor.
Poland OTOH... If Vasa-Habsburg relations worsened ITTL could John II of Poland look for wife for his son in France perhaps? Especially if Henry IV's death is butterflied away-he despised Habsburgs so if he lives longer Habsburg marriages of his kids would not happen. And Polish-Swedish Vasa block is perfect ally against Emperor.
It isn’t unthinkable. The thread below shows of the possibility of getting a Bourbon matched with either Sweden or Denmark: https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/ahc-bourbon-sweden-or-denmark.406334/I don't think a Valois/Bourbon-Vasa match is unthinkable. Caterina de Medici wanted Henri III to marry Elisabet Vasa (OTL duchess of Mecklenburg), not to mentiothat Bona Sforza wanted Sigismund II to marry a French girl (OTL duchesse de Guise/Nemours IIRC) after his first wife died. Which proves that France had an interest in reining in the Habsburgs and that Poland was interested in reaching further than Vienna/Prague for a bride.