CaliGuy
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With a PoD of 1800 or later, which ethnic groups could have been fully assimilated into larger ethnic groups?
For the record, I am thinking of something similar to what the Occitans and Provencals in France experienced in the 19th and 20th centuries.
Anyway, here are my own thoughts on this:
-Had the Bolsheviks made Belarus a part of the Russian SFSR, they would have probably turned Belarusians into Russians by the end of the 20th century.
-Had Russia seized eastern Galicia sometime before 1880 and thus prevented the growth of Ukrainian nationalism there, and had Russia implemented Russifying policies throughout the 20th century, it would have probably been able to turn Ukrainians into Russians.
-Had the Bolsheviks lumped Kazakhs and Kyrgyz into one SSR in the 1920s or 1930s, Kazakhs and Kyrgyz would have probably been considered one people by now. Indeed, Kazakhs and Kyrgyz were actually lumped together on the 1897 Imperial Russian census!
-If Romania manages to avoid losing Moldova to the Soviet Union, then Moldovans would have probably become Romanians by now.
-If Bulgaria would have won WWI, Macedonians would have probably become Bulgarians by now.
-If France had avoided taking Laos from Thailand in 1893, Laotians would probably consider themselves Thai by now.
-I suppose that Tsarist Russia could have expanded Finland to include Estonia. Indeed, if this would have been done early enough (as in, in the early 1800s), perhaps Estonians would come to consider themselves Finns by now.
-I suppose that Tsarist Russia could have tried creating a common Baltic identity for Latvians and Lithuanians. Indeed, if this would have been done early enough (as in, in the early 1800s), perhaps Latvians and Lithuanians would come to consider themselves one people by now.
-Obviously had Hitler died in 1938 and Goering would have avoided sparking World War II, then Austrians would have considered themselves Germans by now.
-Had the 1802 Peace of Amiens held, France would have probably been able to completely assimilate the Walloons. (As for the Flemings, they might have ended up like Alsatians--in other words, French patriots but not fully assimilated.)
Anyway, what exactly am I missing here?
For the record, I am thinking of something similar to what the Occitans and Provencals in France experienced in the 19th and 20th centuries.
Anyway, here are my own thoughts on this:
-Had the Bolsheviks made Belarus a part of the Russian SFSR, they would have probably turned Belarusians into Russians by the end of the 20th century.
-Had Russia seized eastern Galicia sometime before 1880 and thus prevented the growth of Ukrainian nationalism there, and had Russia implemented Russifying policies throughout the 20th century, it would have probably been able to turn Ukrainians into Russians.
-Had the Bolsheviks lumped Kazakhs and Kyrgyz into one SSR in the 1920s or 1930s, Kazakhs and Kyrgyz would have probably been considered one people by now. Indeed, Kazakhs and Kyrgyz were actually lumped together on the 1897 Imperial Russian census!
-If Romania manages to avoid losing Moldova to the Soviet Union, then Moldovans would have probably become Romanians by now.
-If Bulgaria would have won WWI, Macedonians would have probably become Bulgarians by now.
-If France had avoided taking Laos from Thailand in 1893, Laotians would probably consider themselves Thai by now.
-I suppose that Tsarist Russia could have expanded Finland to include Estonia. Indeed, if this would have been done early enough (as in, in the early 1800s), perhaps Estonians would come to consider themselves Finns by now.
-I suppose that Tsarist Russia could have tried creating a common Baltic identity for Latvians and Lithuanians. Indeed, if this would have been done early enough (as in, in the early 1800s), perhaps Latvians and Lithuanians would come to consider themselves one people by now.
-Obviously had Hitler died in 1938 and Goering would have avoided sparking World War II, then Austrians would have considered themselves Germans by now.
-Had the 1802 Peace of Amiens held, France would have probably been able to completely assimilate the Walloons. (As for the Flemings, they might have ended up like Alsatians--in other words, French patriots but not fully assimilated.)
Anyway, what exactly am I missing here?
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