Which defunct countries you would like to survive in an ATL 2.0

modelcitizen

modelcitizen

katchen said:
One big India pre 1937 including Burma. The Burmese are a minority in "Myanmar" anyway and Ne Win's stagnation and the current Than Shwe regime would be butterflied away. Possibly include Sri Lanka in Greater India as well. Maybe even Oman, the Emirates (then called the Trucial States) and Aden and Qatar, which would butterfly away a LOT of Mideast petro-instability while making Greater India self sufficient in energy. The Arab emirates in question had very small populations, easily submerged by India and the size of Indian princely states. Several wars (Oman, 1969-1975, Indo-Pakistani Wars, Burmese Civil War, Tamil Tigers) and much loss of life would be averted ATL. this way.
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(Eyes widen.)

Not just The Raj, but The Raj!

It would have a hell of a soundtrack.

That could make life very interesting.
 

Avitus

Byzantium and its successor states (Trebizond and Theodoro especially)
Kingdom of France (Valois or Bourbon, doesn't matter which)
Crown of Aragon
Valois Burgundy
Kingdom of Scotland
Republic of Venice
Chinese Empire (Ming or Qing)
Feudal Japan (Samurai are awesome)
Mexican Empire
Austria-Hungary
 

GrandpaTanaka

The most glorious Republic of Indian Stream of course.

Also, Republics of Genoa and Venice. I am seeing a lot of love for Venice, but I have always been more partial to Genoa myself.

And as others have said, Scotland, Wales and a united Ireland.
 

Avitus

GrandpaTanaka said:
The most glorious Republic of Indian Stream of course.

Also, Republics of Genoa and Venice. I am seeing a lot of love for Venice, but I have always been more partial to Genoa myself.

And as others have said, Scotland, Wales and a united Ireland.
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For some reason Genoa just seems to lack character. Venice was like a state run by Machiavellianism with undertones of suave wickedness, almost like if a standard Count Dracula style vampire were turned into a nation state. Compared to that, Genoa just isn't as exciting to me.
 

Kosta

Banned
Leo Caesius said:
The late, great, People's Democratic Republic of Yemen!
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I second that.
Hmmmmmmmm.

*I want to see the Eastern Roman Empire
*Coexisting peacefully with the Ottoman Empire (this doesn't have to be realistic or anything!)
*A Sultanate of Oman still with Zanzibar
*A solidly Zoroastrian state
*The Crown of Aragon
*Independent Occitania
*Al-Andalus
*The Qarmatians
*Empire of Ethiopia
*The Duchy of Normandy that actually includes Normandy
*The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland
*Independent Duchy of Brittany
*Actually, let's just make a completely balkanised France
*Srivijaya coexisting with Majapahit
*British North America
*Cape Colony
*Portuguese influenced Rajahs in Indonesia
*British Hong Kong and Portuguese Macau
*New Sweden and New Netherland
*Courlander Gold Coast and Tobago
*Dutch, Swedish, and Danish Gold Coast
*Republic of Salé
*Rustamid Dynasty
*Kingdom of Korea
 

King Helü of Wu

Banned
Roman Empire (Principate)
Parthian Empire
Surviving Song Dynasty
Kharazm Sultanate
Abbasid Arabia
Kingdom of France
A Japan that preserves best of the Tokugawa shogunate
Kaiserreich
Empire of Korea
 

CompletelyDeleted

  • The ancient Middle Eastern empires (Assyrian, Mesopotamia, etc.)
  • Russian Empire
  • French Empire
  • Han or Tang Dynasty or Republic of China
  • Shogunate Japan
  • Yugoslavia (non-socialist)
  • Balkanized Germany or German Empire
  • Austrian Empire
  • Republic of California (always wished this happened)
  • Republic of Texas
  • and more...
 

Monte-Cristo

Borderline since it did not actually take off, de Tourens' Royaume d'Araucanie et de Patagonie
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Araucanía_and_Patagonia

Off-topic since it was only a proposal, quixotic Napoléon III's Royaume Arabe d'Algérie - independent from France but associated with it in a kind of Union Française, officially bilingual with two 'major' religions and equal citizenship to all. Napoléon III even offered the crown to Abd-el-Kaber, the leader of the Berber resistance whom he had liberated from home arrest.

Purely AH, a Pais d'Oc Southern France including Catalonia and the Balearic islands.
 

Kishan

The Mauryan Empire surviving and expanding southwards to include the four southern kingdoms and the island of Lanka, and covering the entire subcontinent. The Achaemenid Empire covering the entire Middle East including Turkey but excluding North Africa. The Egyptian Empire of the Pharaohs. An Empire of Carthage to the west of the Egyptian Empire. The Ayuthaya Empire covering Thailand, Myanmar, Laos and Cambodia. The Sri Vijaya or Majapahit Empire covering OTL Indonesia, Malaysia, Brunie and Singapore and may be the Philippines too.
 

Visigoethe

I also think the Chola Empire could also be interesting with Southern India, Maldives, Sri Lanka, Singapore, Indonesia, and Malaysia all combined who knows what the possibilities could be!
 
Corsair_Caruso

Corsair_Caruso

katchen said:
One big India pre 1937 including Burma. The Burmese are a minority in "Myanmar" anyway and Ne Win's stagnation and the current Than Shwe regime would be butterflied away. Possibly include Sri Lanka in Greater India as well. Maybe even Oman, the Emirates (then called the Trucial States) and Aden and Qatar, which would butterfly away a LOT of Mideast petro-instability while making Greater India self sufficient in energy. The Arab emirates in question had very small populations, easily submerged by India and the size of Indian princely states. Several wars (Oman, 1969-1975, Indo-Pakistani Wars, Burmese Civil War, Tamil Tigers) and much loss of life would be averted ATL. this way.
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Holy crap. I haven't seen many India-wanks, but that's intense.

modelcitizen said:
(Eyes widen.)

Not just The Raj, but The Raj!

It would have a hell of a soundtrack.

That could make life very interesting.
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Seconded.
 
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