Which country is most likley facist/racist ?

None of the Allied powers are likely to turn into a version of Nazism. It was very strange that the Nazis took power in Germany. Fascism is what you get when the traditional conservatives are discredited in a modern state. None of the western allies have traditional conservatives like that, and it would have been liberalism - not anything like the Kaiser - that would have been discredited. Russia is the only country that fits in that category, but it lacks the industrial base and modern culture.

Britain is unlikely to become fascist. It will probably not lose any land even in a scenario where the Allies lose World War I. It has a strong democratic and liberal tradition. It's possible that Labor might enter government a lot sooner though.

France could possibly have a right wing government, but it would probably be lead by Action Francaise. At worst, it would be a mild form of fascism that had much more support of Catholicism, less secularism, and perhaps a restoration of the monarchy. It would still likely be constitutional with some form of democracy so not even as authoritarian as Portugal or Italy IOTL. If there is some kind of civil war between right wing and left wing radicals though, we could see a radicalization of politics. However, given France's need to stay good with Britain, I don't see any dictator coming to power.

Italy will probably go fascist just as it did IOTL with winning WWI. However, Mussolini will likely be pro-French since both countries will be looking to regain lost lands.

Russia will likely be embroiled in civil war for several years and have much of its land taken away. If we Brest-Litovsk as a basis, it will lose not just Finland and the Baltics, but there will be independent Caucasus republics, and a German backed Ukraine and Belarus. There might even be an independent Cossack state in the Kuban. No matter who wins in Russia - either Bolshevik or Tsarist conservative, Russia will have lost its breadbasket and much of its industry. In either scenario, liberalism is likely discredited. If the Whites win, they are likely to be very conservative, but would like the industrial base to be modern enough to be fascist. They'd probably fall back to traditional Russian despotism and anti-semitic pogroms with some kind of self-strengthening movement that would be the closest thing to fascism IOTL. It would be more like Franco on a bad day than anything like Hitler though.
 
Well IIRC Kaiser Karl supported this Idea. Now he just needs to convenience the Hungarian king, (i dont know who that was though). Sure there would be revolutions and rebels. But..... As there were more ethnic tensions in Hungary as in Austria, i think that they would have done it.

i think that a indepndent Serbia is a bigger problem, in a few years, new terrorist organisations will raise for a Greater Serbia etc.

Also if the Serbs have equal rights, have their own Governor and are part in a relativly safe and wealthy empire, why would they want to leave ?

On the german wikipedia it says that Austria wanted to annex Serbia, Montenegro, Romania Albania and parts of Russian Poland. Well to annex all of them thats just too much, but as for Serbia i think its better to include them, otherwise i think they could harm the monarchy even more than if they would get annexed.
In my alternate timeline they only got back Lombardia and Venetia and annexed Serbia.
 
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Assuming the Central Powers won WW1, and the US never entered the war. Which of the loosing countries would most likley become a facistic racistic/Antisemitistic country like the German Reich in the Original timeline ??

All countries everywhere are facist. Facism has deep, biological roots.
 
Well IIRC Kaiser Karl supported this Idea. Now he just needs to convenience the Hungarian king, (i dont know who that was though). Sure there would be revolutions and rebels. But..... As there were more ethnic tensions in Hungary as in Austria, i think that they would have done it.

The King of Hungary was Kaiser Karl, so I don`t think he need to convince himself. ;) The problem will be the Hungarian government and ruling establishment, since they lose the most with a reform. And if open rebellion breaks out, that probably means German intervention, and they won`t federalise A-H because that would open a question with Germany`s Polish regions. Frankly, the USGA isn`t impossible, but it is very, very unlikely to come into being.

i think that a indepndent Serbia is a bigger problem, in a few years, new terrorist organisations will raise and fight for Bosnian Independence or for a Greater Serbia etc.,

They`d do that if they were annexed as well, so it really doesn`t change anything.
 
People don't like to be ruled by their 'Mortal Enemies'

Also I think Fraz was the only one who wanted to reform, and he is dead. So that shoots the reforms in the head and leaves it in a ditch.
 
France would probably be in no shape to really do anything, at least not for a while. If Italy went fascist, which I see as likely, then Britain going that route isn't too improbable. Depends if the Germans managed to invade somehow or not.

It won't happen in Britain, it's the most modern and advanced of the Allied Powers barring the US and it has a history of stable democratic institutions, the French and Italians on the other hand have a history of political unrest and the Great War along with the Interwar Period didn't do either of them any favors in that regard.

The Germans will neither want to nor be capable of invading the British Isles, remember their essential war aim, however that winds up coming about, is to be recognized as a new and powerful force on the world stage, they don't have to invade and conquer Britain (the RN will fight until the last ship for the Channel, so don't count on it happening), in any case, a defeated power or at least one that got screwed by the peace treaty (i.e. Italy, even when she was on the winning side of the war, got nothing).

France is a strong possibility for some kind of an issue, especially if she loses the war, the kind of effect losing two consecutive major wars to the Germans is just asking for some populist psychopath to come about trying to restoring France's proper role in things.
 
Sorry my mistake, it wasnt the whole Serbia, it was just the Serbian Viovodeship and Banant of Temeschwar.
But what reason could the Serbs have to rebel if they have equal rights and are a state in a Great Power ?

Perhaps make it as a protectorate first, and later make a election wheater they want to be Independent or be a Freesate within Greater Austria ?
In my Alternat timeline Romania didnt enter the war and stayed neutral.

Not sure what to do with Albania and Montenegro. Maybe make them as Protectorats and do it similar to Serbia.

IIRC Albania was politcally unstable, and there was a Volunteer Army actually supported the Austro Hungarian Troops. So maybe Albania could get a Austrian Protectorat and if it proves to be stable and capable of surviving it will become a independent country.

Not sure what to do with Montenegro, i think uniting it with Serbia isnt a good idea.
 
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How much do you know about the Ethnic troubles in the Balkans any way?

Cause the Serbs Croats and Muslims 'hate'(or at least elements within each group do) each other enough to have a war and start ethnic cleansing in the 90's after being equal members of a nation for like 40 years.

So it's ethnic issues not just political ones forcing AH apart in 1914 and during the war.
 

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Sorry my mistake, it wasnt the whole Serbia, it was just the Serbian Viovodeship and Banant of Temeschwar.
But what reason could the Serbs have to rebel if they have equal rights and are a state in a Great Power ?

Perhaps make it as a protectorate first, and later make a election wheater they want to be Independent or be a Freesate within Greater Austria ?
In my Alternat timeline Romania didnt enter the war and stayed neutral.

Not sure what to do with Albania and Montenegro. Maybe make them as Protectorats and do it similar to Serbia.

IIRC Albania was politcally unstable, and there was a Volunteer Army actually supported the Austro Hungarian Troops. So maybe Albania could get a Austrian Protectorat and if it proves to be stable and capable of surviving it will become a independent country.

Not sure what to do with Montenegro, i think uniting it with Serbia isnt a good idea.

You are doing what Wilson did, assuming the various southern Slav liked each other.

https://www.google.com/search?q=ser...VHOSK2wWH9aGFCg&ved=0CDYQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=707

Research "Serb Cutter". The Germans gave the gas chamber technology to the Croats, but they did not like to use it, since it was a too humane killer of serbs. So they often use the Serb Cutter. One guy killed over 1300 Serbs using this method. It is a very personal kind of hatred when shooting or gassing your opponent is too good a way for him to die. Think about that for a second. Dachau is too humane. With such hatred, it is almost impossible to have a happy ending.

Some lower level SS visitor wrote reports complaining about excessive Croat Brutality. An SS man, in the extermination department, complaining about excess brutality to Slavs says it all.
 
Yeah i know that the slavic states really hated each other and many still do, and i know their brutally and find it sad that such brutality like that happened quite recently. But all that was due to the secound world war, which isnt the case in my alternate history.

But i always assumed the later Yugoslav war started, cause the Serbs ruled over the others and the Bosniaks and Croats didn't have as many rights as Serbs did. While in Greater Austria all those states have their own Governor and are not under serbian rule.
Where there really that tensions in the earlier years like 1918, why would Croats and Bosniaks enter Yugoslavia then anyway if there is such a hatred ?? I think thsoe hatred started to grow later like in the years of the secound World War and later.
 
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