Where the Curtain is Yet to Fall: Communist Albania After the Death of Enver Hoxha

abc123

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but Albania supporting Serbia against the Kosovars stretches the suspension of disbelief to breaking point,

Indeed.
I simply don't see that as real possibility. After all, Albania and Yugoslavia were allmost open enemies while the Albanians had much better position than in second part of 90s...
 

Abhakhazia

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This looks interesting. I don't know much about Albania, so I won't be able to comment much, but well-writted and looks like a good read. Subscribed.
 
Interesting time-line, but Albania supporting Serbia against the Kosovars stretches the suspension of disbelief to breaking point, as does the attempt to mass slaughter Muslim villages.

It isn't unheard-of for countries to slaughter their own people for ideological reasons - witness Cambodia under Pol Pot. I don't think the anti-religious fanaticism that Parterre is proposing would be any more implausible than that.
 

abc123

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It isn't unheard-of for countries to slaughter their own people for ideological reasons - witness Cambodia under Pol Pot. I don't think the anti-religious fanaticism that Parterre is proposing would be any more implausible than that.

Persecuting their own people because that some of that people might be a problem for ruler/s isn't unheard. But helping to enemy against their own ethnic brethern over the border that are no threat to your power and the whole ideology/history of Albania is against of that- sorry, doesn't sound as plausible for me.
Didn't you heard for a old expression: "Albanians are the only nation in the world that has borders with themselves"?
 
Persecuting their own people because that some of that people might be a problem for ruler/s isn't unheard. But helping to enemy against their own ethnic brethern over the border that are no threat to your power and the whole ideology/history of Albania is against of that- sorry, doesn't sound as plausible for me.
Didn't you heard for a old expression: "Albanians are the only nation in the world that has borders with themselves"?

Fair point. But maybe the Kosovars are a threat - for instance, refugees from the Milloshi regime might go to Kosovo and join the national movement, thus making it a challenge to the Albanian state as well as the Serbs. For that matter, a sufficiently paranoid regime in Tirana might consider the very existence of another ethnic Albanian state a threat, because it might give dissidents a rallying point.
 

abc123

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Fair point. But maybe the Kosovars are a threat - for instance, refugees from the Milloshi regime might go to Kosovo and join the national movement, thus making it a challenge to the Albanian state as well as the Serbs. For that matter, a sufficiently paranoid regime in Tirana might consider the very existence of another ethnic Albanian state a threat, because it might give dissidents a rallying point.

Better to have on your border another Albanian state than Serbia.
Also, I dont tink that Albania ever envisioned that Kosovo will become independent country, they always wanted Greater Albania.
 

Angel Heart

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Interesting time-line, but Albania supporting Serbia against the Kosovars stretches the suspension of disbelief to breaking point, as does the attempt to mass slaughter Muslim villages.

Indeed. That's why Sloba and Albania being friends on an ideological level how I suggested could only apply theoretically, which I should have mentioned.

While Albanians were communists they were first Albanians and then communists. On the contrary to a certain neighbour in the north they didn't commit national suicide.
 
So guys, I have to be honest- I'm putting this on hold. I just don't know enough about Albania to take this on right now. I'm finding internet research to be fairly fruitless. Sorry.

But I am lucky enough to attend a university whose library has twenty-five branches and, as Wikipedia tells me, 10.4 million books in its collection. I surmise at least a few of them will be about Communist Albania. So I have my work cut out for me. I hope to get some research done, and when I do, I'll come back to this in full force.
 
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