When the Wind Blew: a P&S Open Thread

Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: After 1900' started by Gen_Patton, Oct 10, 2011.

  1. stalkere Banned

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    This shows a very good appreciation of the Soviet sense of humor. I'd appreciate seeing something like this, if it were done well.

    Not sure how much the Japanese would get - other than the US bases at Misawa, Yokuska, Kadena/Naha. It would be the famines/oil shortage that would be the real killer for them. OTOH, they have - to American eyes - the strange ability to maintain order and stay in line to get things done.
     
  2. JasonQ Well-Known Member

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    From the midnight Sun, where the hot springs blow?

    ...I'm...I'm sorry, I don't know what came over me. I couldn't resist. :D
     
  3. DrakonFin Operator

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    The title is a reference to this classic song from 1982. I'll try to include music in the TL that people in the winter of 1983-84 would have listened ITTL. Stratovarius would be too new, as would be CMX, a band I would be highly partial for using in describing post-nuclear settings.
     
  4. DirtyCommie Esoteric Socialist

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    I've got two ideas I wanna share.

    Title of TL: When The Wind Comes Right Behind the Rain

    Setting: Oklahoma, United States

    Brief Description: Our story follows the adventures of a diverse cast of characters in postnuclear Oklahoma--an Oklahoma City microbiologist and family trying to make their way out to their ancestral homestead in the Panhandle, an aging Cherokee farmer near nuked-out Tulsa trying to protect his farm and family from bandits, coyotes, and a violent Christian fundamentalist group, a psychologist and his son trying to make their way to East Texas, and a young pianist and her Argentine husband trying to survive in the ruins of Oklahoma City.

    Title of TL: Fire on the Tundra

    Setting: Nome, Alaska (as well as other areas of Alaska)

    Brief Description: In postnuclear Alaska, the Inuit shareholders of the north and west attempt to form a fragile sort of stability in the state, led by the Bering Straits Native Corporation. However, their push towards reunification of the state is opposed by the remnants of Alaskan Air Command, led by a racist colonel, as well as survivalist militias attempting to carve out their own bits of territory. Extreme drama in the extreme north.
     
  5. Falkenburg CMII & Bar Monthly Donor

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    Prompted by thoughts of trying to maintain some sense of 'normality' Post Exchange and equip children for the new challenges they will face.

    Title: A is for Armageddon

    Setting: East Coast USA (New England. Probably.)

    Brief Description:
    Brought to you by the Childrens' Television Workshop, "A is for Armageddon" gives glimpses into the struggle to explain to children the new facts of Post Exchange life.

    Through the medium of Sesame Street critical information is communicated to children (and the adults drawn to the programmes/performances).

    Traveling Troupes take the messages out to isolated communities by any means available.
    The TL could follow one of the Troupes as they travel their patch, encountering small rural communities.

    Kermit the Frog provides the serious warnings.
    Oscar the Grouch leads a recycling programme.
    Cookie Monster learns not to eat 'found' food the hard way.
    The Count teaches children how to read radiation levels.

    "One of these things is not like the others" Teaches children that only a Radiation Reading can tell the difference between 'Safe' and 'Sick' objects.

    Anyone who'd like to, please feel free to run with this idea.
    I'd like to see it developed but have neither the time nor the talent to do it justice. :eek:

    Falkenburg
     
  6. Gen_Patton Survivor of the '84 War.

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    Very interesting. I may run with this a little in Duck and Cover. I'll see how it goes.

    That brings up an interesting question. How does schooling play out?

    Perhaps primary and stunted "middle school" (6-8th) grades, but I think most kids won't get a high school education for years. :(
     
  7. jmill Well-Known Member

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    They could hold out till April. I am just suggesting this for someone else to write if they want.
     
  8. Hörnla Well-Known Member

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    I would very much say that it depends highly on the place where you are. A place such as "Columbia" will soon go lengths to pretend normalcy.

    In other places, any schools will be an utopia for years to come.

    In communities were most long-term survivors get along, situations like in (post-) WW2 Europe might be common. Shortened time until you get a degree. Half-day schooling (either to get the kids to do something sensible in the mornings, or either because too many refugee-children cram the schools, so they have to be taught in shifts). But don't forget that schools also provide a lot of social control. Adolescents are born troublemakers. Schools keep a lid on them. And schools with their certainly changes curricula are important to thoroughly spread anything authorities want to be known.
     
  9. Chipperback Catherverse 2020: Endgame

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    That would be something to figure out. Nebraska has a person with a degree in Educational Psychology on speed dial...He might have an idea or two. :)
     
  10. Falkenburg CMII & Bar Monthly Donor

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    In the harsh reality of a Post Exchange world, it would seem necessitous to mobilise the entire population for Recovery Projects.

    Education Systems are similar to the military in their ability to mobilise large numbers for specific ends.

    It therefore strikes me as entirely plausible that such systems would become a major part of government operations.

    Junior Pioneers, Scouts, Guides, Cadets, etcetera, could well become central to social structures.
    So far (most of) the juvenile characters have been very lucky.
    They haven't lost their parents (or guardians). Yet.

    However, Post Exchange this could well change.
    Point being that the surviving population could well be (heavily) skewed towards the younger demographics.

    In such circumstances, the Education System (and assorted quasi-paramilitary offshoots) may well prove essential to societal cohesion.

    Child Soldiers, and all other types of exploitation and abuse, would be an existential threat to 'successful' Recovery.
    Countering those baleful aspects of a shattered world and equipping children for the struggles ahead would consequently be of the highest importance.

    Hence the thought about Sesame Street.
    <Caesium Street? Too soon?>

    Falkenburg
     
  11. Gen_Patton Survivor of the '84 War.

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    I'm going to have child soldiers in the next update about Northern California. Darn you for seeing right through me.:D
     
  12. JN1 Has been called the C word on Twitter

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    I have another idea that I'd like to tackle once The Last Flight of XM594 is finished.

    Title of TL: Horse Soldiers, or Monty goes to war.
    Setting: The southern UK.
    Brief Description: A story from the Home Front, both before and after the exchange. Features the Household Cavalry Mounted Regiment and the Royal Duties Force.
     
  13. Top hats daily Well-Known Member

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    Title of TL: That Damned Bridge - A MN Protect and Survive

    Setting: A small town on the St. Croix river in Stillwater, MN.

    Brief Description: A tale of hardship taking place in a small cozy city in eastern Minnesota, which is taking a fair bit of Fallout from the strikes on Minneapolis, St. Paul, and the missile fields of ND and SD. This focuses on the continuity of government, and a group of National Guardsmen native to Stillwater
     
  14. Weaver Well-Known Member

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    I was living in North Queensland Australia near Cairns in 1984 and remember those times very well.

    I would like to write a short series of vignettes on communities in that region on That Day and succeeding periods.

    Comments? Not many contributors from the land of Oz.
     
  15. Gen_Patton Survivor of the '84 War.

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    Go for it, OZ may be the best off, if you live outside the cities...
     
  16. Chipperback Catherverse 2020: Endgame

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    An Australian timeline? DO IT, MATE! DO IT!
     
  17. Seraphiel The Seraphic Grandmaster Banned

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    someone should get all the tls in one place (the updates) so you dont have to go through a million comments and other replies to read them
     
  18. Gen_Patton Survivor of the '84 War.

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    You are a genious! Hmmm, I'll get to working on somthing.... See what you think
     
  19. Falkenburg CMII & Bar Monthly Donor

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    That sounds like a Herculean task. :eek:

    Would they all be arranged chronologically, integrating the various Threads into a single tapestry?

    Good luck, Gen_!

    Falkenburg
     
  20. Chipperback Catherverse 2020: Endgame

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    But the comments in between updates give the timeline are particular charm and a history. :)