When could Germany have won WWII?

When could Germany have won WWII?

  • Dunkirk (1940)

    Votes: 70 42.7%
  • Britain (1940)

    Votes: 14 8.5%
  • Crete (1941)

    Votes: 3 1.8%
  • Barbarossa (1941)

    Votes: 29 17.7%
  • Winter Campaign (1941-42)

    Votes: 4 2.4%
  • Fall Blau (1942)

    Votes: 6 3.7%
  • Winter Storm (1942)

    Votes: 1 0.6%
  • Kursk (1943)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other (specify in post)

    Votes: 37 22.6%

  • Total voters
    164
Define "win". Because that is very important. A win could be as simple as actually surviving in some fashion (hard) to conquest of Europe (harder).
 
Stop joking around.

He'as actually got a point... The best way to win for Germany is simply not to play.

Assuming no changes to the timelines up to the point that each battle takes place, it is really hard. An invasion of Britain is out of the question. Barbarossa and the follwoing campaigns are arguably your best bet, but beating the USSR is premise is often called ASB due to numerous issues involved with it. Anytime after the United States has gotten involved is basically impossible, by that point you've got the weight of an untouchable giant bearing down on you so battles like Kursk and what-not is too late.
 
Theoretically conquest of Britain is not impossible, theoretically German (but not Nazi) victory over the USSR is possible, theoretically facing both with reasonable success is possible. . .

Practically, it ain't gonna work.
 
I am assuming the Nazi's survive with a peace or something. Let them do the battle of France and destroy the British before they can evacuate, then they offer modest peace terms.

Views on the above?
 
I am assuming the Nazi's survive with a peace or something. Let them do the battle of France and destroy the British before they can evacuate, then they offer modest peace terms.

Views on the above?

Churchill: Sod off, Shitler. Ha, I made a funny.
 
"Who do you think you're kidding Mister Hitler, if you think old England's done!" :cool:

Precisely.

Dunkirk as a ghastly British defeat would have been hard to recover from, but not enough to knock England out right there, and that leaves us back at dealing with the RAF and Royal Navy before any such blow could be landed.

And as others have discussed, odds of that approach zero.
 
Define "win"?

In terms of a favourable peace (France militarly neutered, the Brits out of European affairs, annexing much of western Russia?) probably up till the yanks entered the war. After all, the british financial position was increasingly precarious and the Sovs had taken a right beating in the opening phases of Barbarossa. Of cause, the problem is getting the Nazis to angle for a favourable treaty then rather than push on in hopes of taking it all...

In terms of "teh nazi ubermensh rulz teh wrold"/total conquest of Britain and the USSR... never.
 
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Other: 1938 and the invasion of Czechoslovakia, everyone else pretty much just threw them under the bus and let the Germans get on with things. Now granted there were severe economic reasons for why they went on their Europe-wide driving holiday, IIRC the economy was pretty much a gigantic Ponzi scheme that kept being bailed out by their neighbour's looted treasuries, but if they could pause for say five years and then go invasion crazy they might of been better off. Better yet would of been to stop there, but I don't think more than a few years pause is likely.
 
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