Will Kürlich Kerl
Banned
Italian Rome.
BTW, this should be in Non-Political Chat.
EDIT: Welcome to AH.com!
BTW, this should be in Non-Political Chat.
EDIT: Welcome to AH.com!
Granted, though it probably happened already by the 16th or at latest 17th c.
Your schema is pointing to the early 19th c. instead. I'd say the breaking point happened a couple of hundred years earlier, the time difference after was required to reap the benefits and develop projection power.
Uzun Hassan (1423-1478) repeatedly tried to get the Europeans to give him firearms because he couldn't make his own, and he's the ruler of Persia! By this point the Europeans have been able to do it for 150 years.
I suggest you read The Great Divergance, The Eastern Origins of Western Civilization and 1491: New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus. Especially the second book. The fact is is that Western Europe got where it is today by the following methods:
- 1) It forced almost all Amerindians (well, those that survived the genocides and diseases of European invaders) and masses of Africans into lives of slavery and servitude, mainly in producing raw resources, essentially because no one wanted European manufactured goods; this is why India was colonized: No one would want to buy English wool cloth when Indian cottons were available.
- 2) Europe accumulated superior Nonwestern science and technology; this was only possible due to the fact that TWO (eventually THREE (plus Australia)) continents were almost completely decimated by the European Genocides (not just their Afro-Eurasian diseases), enabling them to enslave the remaining people to produce such goods as silver for China, for example: No one wanted anything Europe had.
- 3) Eventually, thanks to these methods, Europe became advanced enough that it could take on the rest of Eurasia, thus accumulating still more Nonwestern knowledge, resources and technology, until it finally reached the tipping point, surpassed other civilizations in every technological way and thus became Industrial and Modern.
No, Roman Paganism did not fix the problems you mention directly but it also did not create a disincentive to make improve life in the real world that Christianity did nor does it promote dogma and suppress debate on such a scale as Christianity did.
I suggest you read The Great Divergance, The Eastern Origins of Western Civilization and 1491: New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus. Especially the second book. The fact is is that Western Europe got where it is today by the following methods:
- 1) It forced almost all Amerindians (well, those that survived the genocides and diseases of European invaders) and masses of Africans into lives of slavery and servitude, mainly in producing raw resources, essentially because no one wanted European manufactured goods; this is why India was colonized: No one would want to buy English wool cloth when Indian cottons were available.
- 2) Europe accumulated superior Nonwestern science and technology; this was only possible due to the fact that TWO (eventually THREE (plus Australia)) continents were almost completely decimated by the European Genocides (not just their Afro-Eurasian diseases), enabling them to enslave the remaining people to produce such goods as silver for China, for example: No one wanted anything Europe had.
- 3) Eventually, thanks to these methods, Europe became advanced enough that it could take on the rest of Eurasia, thus accumulating still more Nonwestern knowledge, resources and technology, until it finally reached the tipping point, surpassed other civilizations in every technological way and thus became Industrial and Modern.
No, Roman Paganism did not fix the problems you mention directly but it also did not create a disincentive to make improve life in the real world that Christianity did nor does it promote dogma and suppress debate on such a scale as Christianity did
What is a Sparticist Rome? Imperator Karl Leibknacht and the Praetorian Gaurd Panzer Battalion rolling into Gaul in the Great Patriotic War?
Holy Roman Empire.