Whats the story behind the Russo Kazack Border

When people make AH maps they tend to leave borders in areas they're unsure about as they are. One of the larger ones of these is the Kazakh border.
The Russian-Kazakh border unlike many other borders around the world though doesn't really follow any natural logic. There's no rivers or mountains or anything. Its quite arbitrary.
Hence its illogical that in a alternate universe where history worked out differently this arbitrary line would be drawn in exactly the same place.
 

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As far as I know, Stalin or the general Bolshevisk government made the border in the 1930s, allegedly along ethnical lines, which don't coincide with what Stalin did in reality...

My theory is that Iosif was drunk on Vodka, picked up a pencil and started to draw the inner borders of the Soviet Union inspired by the drawings of 5 year old children...
 
As far as I know, Stalin or the general Bolshevisk government made the border in the 1930s, allegedly along ethnical lines, which don't coincide with what Stalin did in reality...

If it's the same as the northern border of the Kirghiz ASSR then in dates to 1930. It may have been closer to ethnical realities back then because Kazakhstan had yet to experience massive European colonization.
 

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As far as I know, Stalin or the general Bolshevisk government made the border in the 1930s, allegedly along ethnical lines, which don't coincide with what Stalin did in reality...

My theory is that Iosif was drunk on Vodka, picked up a pencil and started to draw the inner borders of the Soviet Union inspired by the drawings of 5 year old children...
Your theory is very good... for insane asylum or Russian Studies professor of some American Uni. In fact, great deal of effort DID go to drawing of those borders. Thing with the Northern border of Kazakhstan, however, is, Kazahstan consists of Southern part (traditional tribal lands of Kazakh nomads) and Northern part (which used to be kinds of "no-man land" no tribe had substantial claim on before Russia annexed those lands). Stalin attached those Northern (mainly Russian-populated) lands to Kazakhstan due to many reasons, but none of those reasons work in Alternative realities.
 
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