Whats the largest, non wank colonial empire the Dutch could have

Dutch Brazil seems the most likely.

Keeping the Cape Colony maybe? Plenty of room for expansion heading north in the 19th century.
 
Dutch Brazil seems the most likely.

Keeping the Cape Colony maybe? Plenty of room for expansion heading north in the 19th century.
What about Dutch Guyana? Would they be able to expand it too include the rest of Guianas?

Map of Guiana in a geographic sense.
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With a POD in the late 18th, early 19th century I think it is easily possible for the Dutch to keep Dutch Ghana, the Cape colony, Sri Lanka and "British" Guyana. Including Dutch Malaysia should be doable. I think Dutch Western Australia is possible. Maybe a couple of Pacific islands.

Going back earlier, I think the Dutch could get a part of Southern India, Brasil (the area around Recife), a larger Carribean (like the Virgin islands), Dutch Taiwan even a Dutch New Netherlands I consider possible. It becomes a bit harder, but it is possible. The problem though is that would mean probably that the Dutch would lose/not gain other colonies. For example I think that if the Dutch keep their part of Brasil that you won't get a Dutch Surinam. Same is true for the New Netherlands. You also need a different focus for the Dutch.
 
How about, Dutch win the Battle of Chinsura in 1759 - and Dutch, not English, end up taking over Bengal and the whole India?
I doubt it. Dutch India was focused mostly at the south and because Indonesia was more important to the VOC, was of significantly lesser importance. I don't think the Dutch can control both India and Indonesia and the focus of the Dutch was clearly on Indonesia (which was probably the bigger price of the two). I do believe Dutch India can belarger than it was OTL. The VOC just need to be more interested in the area. All of India, no. Probably just Southern India.

Dutch Angola, and maybe East Timor.

Dutch Angola probably would mean no Dutch Cape. The Dutch decided to found the Cape colony, basicly because they were unable to hold Portuguese Angola.
 

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Dutch steal more Caribbean Islands, Dutch suppress Brazilian rebellions and conquer north Brazil, and the Dutch retaining South Africa after French Revolution, Dutch gold coast succeeding and Dutch participation in the scramble for Africa could triple and quadruple OTL Dutch empire.

The main problem with the dutch was that they were so small, and the empire they had in OTL was considerable given that fact. If we could get a strong Dutch revolt against the Spanish we could see a New Netherlands in America actually being viable, or a New Holland in Western Australia. No Belgian revolution in 1830 would involve a stronger industrialization in the Netherlands and more manpower, which could lead to a faster colonization of Africa and Indonesia.
 
OTL + South Africa + Ghana + French & British Guyana + Tobago, Virgin Islands + Ceylon + Malaysia and Brunei + Some Indian settlements

Not too much but definitely not a wank.
 
I do believe Dutch India can belarger than it was OTL. The VOC just need to be more interested in the area. All of India, no. Probably just Southern India.

They’d have to commit enough resources to the south to conquer and sustain conquest before the 1740s, when Indian states especially in the south embarked on their campaigns of modernisation and began mass hiring european military advisors- they would be competing with the Marathas, the Nizam of Hyderabad and Mysore, the three states that made the British position in India extremely precarious at times and can’t benefit from the rampant corruption and broken political systems of the post Mughal north- if Dutch India focuses on the south, the most they’ll be able to keep i think would be at maximum a few petty kingdoms and ports.
 
I doubt it. Dutch India was focused mostly at the south and because Indonesia was more important to the VOC, was of significantly lesser importance. I don't think the Dutch can control both India and Indonesia and the focus of the Dutch was clearly on Indonesia (which was probably the bigger price of the two). I do believe Dutch India can belarger than it was OTL. The VOC just need to be more interested in the area. All of India, no.
OTL Dutch were weakened a lot by the malaria epidemic in Batavia since 1733 or so.

Caused by a single point error of allowing a village and fishponds there..
Butterfly it away, and the Dutch have the strength to spare to take over India. English did not invest all that much into Arcot and Plassey. Nothing that Dutch might not have done in their place, had they been a bit stronger.
 
OTL Dutch were weakened a lot by the malaria epidemic in Batavia since 1733 or so.

Caused by a single point error of allowing a village and fishponds there..
Butterfly it away, and the Dutch have the strength to spare to take over India. English did not invest all that much into Arcot and Plassey. Nothing that Dutch might not have done in their place, had they been a bit stronger.

By 1733 it’s already quite late, as the English got preferential trading agreements from Mughal authorities in 1718, and have spent the time since establishing themselves as the most important commercial interests and sources of finance to Bengal, which was the most desirable prize and weakest point in India owing to how integrated it was to the world economy among other things - if they go for anywhere in peninsular India, i doubt they’d be able to maintain their conquests for longer than the french did as it was overall a much harder place to secure.
 
No Glorious Revolution and keep the Belgian coal fields, the Dutch could have been the first industrial power. Then the possibilities are endless.
 
Maybe go as far as say the economic centres didn’t shift to London like it did irl ?. Maybe that is a bit to much of a Wank but I am
Not sure
 
A longer lasting personal union with Englanf and Scotlant might well help, but how exactly this is kept a Dutch empire rather than a British one IDK.
 
A Dutch South Africa where they land enough settlers (who odds are would be mostly non-Dutch, but rather a bunch of Germans, Scandinavians and Huguenots) to give a critical mass of people below the tropical zone. Then once colonisation of the interior happens, the Dutch already have enough local manpower, infrastructure and resources to grab up most of Southern Africa. Their Northern border could easily be in Katanga. Then depending on any later European wars, they could grab more. That would along with Indonesia be the centrepieces of their colonial empires. And unlike Indonesia, parts of South Africa might actually be integrated into the homeland.
 
Prevent Belgium from splitting off. This means that they are in charge of a major industrial area and will give them a much larger population base to work with. Being in a much stronger position they could end in a position to capitalise on their foothold in West Africa and establish a colony in the Gold Coast.
 
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