What's in store for New France and North America in a French Seven Years' War victory

Rush Tarquin

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So there's been much discussion and a few timelines on the French winning the Seven Years' War victory, especially the impact on Europe and the immediate aftermath. What would you anticipate happening in New France and North America long-term? Whether it's economic development, social history, art history or geopolitics, all of these are of interest.
 
So there's been much discussion and a few timelines on the French winning the Seven Years' War victory, especially the impact on Europe and the immediate aftermath. What would you anticipate happening in New France and North America long-term? Whether it's economic development, social history, art history or geopolitics, all of these are of interest.
How did the French win? What were the terms of the peace treaty?
 

Rush Tarquin

Gone Fishin'
How did the French win? What were the terms of the peace treaty?

Take your pick according to perceived probability. Direwolf22's Disaster at Leuthen or the Russian Empress Elizabeth dies earlier or Peter III dies and Catherine the Great takes over when Elizabeth dies - whatever averts a Miracle of the House of Brandenburg. If you don't think that's enough, then the French capture Hanover (but are willing to give it up). If you need more, a successful invasion of Britain and capture of London. Use Direwolf22's Treaty of Rotterdam if you need to, but you could just as well assume no changes in North America and just solidified claims. Anyway, the point is, I don't want the thread getting bogged down in a discussion about which slivers of land are traded for other slivers of land in Europe, though that's obviously important for immigration.
 
Take your pick according to perceived probability. Direwolf22's Disaster at Leuthen or the Russian Empress Elizabeth dies earlier or Peter III dies and Catherine the Great takes over when Elizabeth dies - whatever averts a Miracle of the House of Brandenburg. If you don't think that's enough, then the French capture Hanover (but are willing to give it up). If you need more, a successful invasion of Britain and capture of London. Use Direwolf22's Treaty of Rotterdam if you need to, but you could just as well assume no changes in North America and just solidified claims. Anyway, the point is, I don't want the thread getting bogged down in a discussion about which slivers of land are traded for other slivers of land in Europe, though that's obviously important for immigration.
I was wondering more about which bits of land in North America itself you saw as having changed hands: For example, has France reclaimed 'Acadia' (including Maine)?
 
Why take bits of America, apart what they lost in the 1710s ? I don't think they want to be bothered by protestant anglophone colonist who are about 20 times more numerous than their own colonist ? New France is already very large by then. Better to take some chunk of India instead.

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Anaxagoras

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Why take bits of America, apart what they lost in the 1710s ? I don't think they want to be bothered by protestant anglophone colonist who are about 3 times more numerous than there own colonist ?

Much more than that, IIRC. I think there were something like 50,000 French settlers to over a million English ones.
 

Rush Tarquin

Gone Fishin'
I was wondering more about which bits of land in North America itself you saw as having changed hands: For example, has France reclaimed 'Acadia' (including Maine)?

Direwolf22's treaty has the following:

"In North America French claims in the Ohio Valley were accepted, though the British Thirteen Colonies were able to solidfy their immediate claims. Nova Scotia was ceded to France along with British Guyana in exchange for France not getting the Austrian Netherlands. British Belize was ceded to Spain and Barbados to France."

If you think that's too much, go with your own more conservative estimate.

So are the French in the French colonies going to be out-settled by Anglos heading west? Will the French have a revolt on their hands soon enough in North America? Will Britain keep trying to dislodge the French from North America until it succeeds? Does this hasten or delay a French Revolution? How much more French culture and language would remain in North America over the long-term?
 
Direwolf22's treaty has the following:

"In North America French claims in the Ohio Valley were accepted, though the British Thirteen Colonies were able to solidfy their immediate claims. Nova Scotia was ceded to France along with British Guyana in exchange for France not getting the Austrian Netherlands. British Belize was ceded to Spain and Barbados to France."

British Guyana? But the British didn't have a Guyana during the seven year war.
 

Rush Tarquin

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I'm getting the sense the question I asked was too general and it's a lot harder to speculate on social history, demographics etc without a lot of info.
 
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