What would the Victor's settle for if the 1914 conflict ended in 1914?

We all know why the Great Powers went to war in 1914, if someone's war plan went according to schedule what would have been the peace terms? As an example France wanted Alsace-Lorraine back, they would probably have Austria-Hungary give Bosnia to Serbia and maybe Galacia to Russia.
 
Germany:

- France gets Alsace-Lorraine.
- Russia gets East Prussia and perhaps Posen.
- Germany losts all its colonies.

Austro-Hungary:

- Bosnia to Serbia.
- Galicia to Russia.

Ottoman Empire (if joins):

- Armenian territories to Russia.
 
I think east prussia is a nono in 1914 vicotory, they Russian will try to get all the area with clear majority of Polish, but getting high number of german Minority means war again in the time that the German get to fix themselves.
 

CaliGuy

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Germany:

- France gets Alsace-Lorraine.
- Russia gets East Prussia and perhaps Posen.

Russia would probably want industrialized Upper Silesia as well.

- Germany losts all its colonies.

Agreed.

Austro-Hungary:
- Bosnia to Serbia.
- Galicia to Russia.

Croatia, Vojvodina, and Slovenia also probably go to Serbia.

Also, Trieste, Trentino, Istria, and Dalmatia probably go to Italy.

Ottoman Empire (if joins):
- Armenian territories to Russia.

Yep--the six Armenian Vilayets. Plus the Straits.

Also, what do you think that Russia would want from Sweden and Afghanistan had they joined the Central Powers?

I think east prussia is a nono in 1914 vicotory, they Russian will try to get all the area with clear majority of Polish, but getting high number of german Minority means war again in the time that the German get to fix themselves.

Please keep in mind that Russia can try flooding East Prussia with Russian peasants. Indeed, the land for these peasants can be acquired through land reform and partitioning the large Junker estates in East Prussia.
 
Consider this: with a 1914 victory for the Entente, Britain suddenly finds its strategy of preventing Germany from becoming the European hegemon turned back on it. Now, France and Russia (who are unlikely to go to war and have a shared interest in keeping Germany down) constitute a hegemonic bloc that dominates the continent. I can easily see a rapid shift in British foreign policy to supporting Germany and the other CP nations, plus the ottomans whether or not they joined, starting with trying to get the minimum punishment in the post-war treaty. The "great game" in central Asia probably reignites full force.
 

CaliGuy

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Consider this: with a 1914 victory for the Entente, Britain suddenly finds its strategy of preventing Germany from becoming the European hegemon turned back on it. Now, France and Russia (who are unlikely to go to war and have a shared interest in keeping Germany down) constitute a hegemonic bloc that dominates the continent. I can easily see a rapid shift in British foreign policy to supporting Germany and the other CP nations, plus the ottomans whether or not they joined, starting with trying to get the minimum punishment in the post-war treaty. The "great game" in central Asia probably reignites full force.
I completely agree with this. However, if the war ends in 1914, then Britain isn't going to have much influence at the peace talks since its own troops aren't going to be occupying much of Europe (Britain's army was still small in 1914, no?).

However, I completely agree that the post-war years are likely going to be filled with British-Russian tensions--though this would have been just as true after a long WWI as after a short WWI, IMHO.
 
However, I completely agree that the post-war years are likely going to be filled with British-Russian tensions--though this would have been just as true after a long WWI as after a short WWI, IMHO.
The difference with a short war is that Russia never suffers through over a decade of brutal world war + civil war. They are much stronger post war than in OTL, almost to a ridiculous extent. In fact, I can see the Russians building up for Russo-Japanese war round two right away, and the British would not hesitate to support Japan now.
 

CaliGuy

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The difference with a short war is that Russia never suffers through over a decade of brutal world war + civil war. They are much stronger post war than in OTL, almost to a ridiculous extent. In fact, I can see the Russians building up for Russo-Japanese war round two right away, and the British would not hesitate to support Japan now.
For the record, I should have clarified that, by long WWI, I meant a long WWI where Russia somehow manages to avoid descending into civil war afterwards. After all, a long WWI would have also severely hurt Britain--not only Russia.
 
So early Entente victory;

Europe
Serbia gets Bosnia
Russia gets Galicia
France gets Alsace-Lorraine

Africa
France gets Cameroon, Togoland
Britain gets German East Africa & South-West Africa

Asia
Japan gets German colonies
 
For the record, I should have clarified that, by long WWI, I meant a long WWI where Russia somehow manages to avoid descending into civil war afterwards. After all, a long WWI would have also severely hurt Britain--not only Russia.
Ok, thanks for clearing that up. Britain would also be hurt in a long war, true, but not nearly to the extent that Russia would be. Remember that the most significant damage to Britain from the OTL war was financial, Britain simply did not suffer nearly as many casualties as the French or Russians, which left them better off demographically that their entente allies. Not so here. Imagine how much more threatening France alone would look to Britain without a generation of French men dying in the trenches.
 

NoMommsen

Donor
Anyone here considering a CP-victory "before the leaves have fallen" ?
(Beside the improbable/infamous "September-Program")
 

CaliGuy

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Ok, thanks for clearing that up. Britain would also be hurt in a long war, true, but not nearly to the extent that Russia would be. Remember that the most significant damage to Britain from the OTL war was financial, Britain simply did not suffer nearly as many casualties as the French or Russians, which left them better off demographically that their entente allies. Not so here. Imagine how much more threatening France alone would look to Britain without a generation of French men dying in the trenches.
Britain's death percentage in WWI appears to be higher than Russia's, though:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_casualties
 

CaliGuy

Banned
Anyone here considering a CP-victory "before the leaves have fallen" ?
(Beside the improbable/infamous "September-Program")
In such a scenario, Germany will annex iron ore-rich Briey and Longwy from France and--depending on how much it wants to quickly end the war--whatever it can from Russia.

Meanwhile, Austria-Hungary would either annex or puppetize Serbia.
 
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