Best case scenario this somehow makes the U.S. not want to go all Manifest Destiny on the continent.
Worst case is that this makes a super OP USA that takes over all of Mexico too.
Why would that be "worst"? What's so bad about a stronger USA?
Best case scenario this somehow makes the U.S. not want to go all Manifest Destiny on the continent.
Worst case is that this makes a super OP USA that takes over all of Mexico too.
Why would that be "worst"? What's so bad about a stronger USA?
Best/worst case, there is no Canada. If the Revolting colonies can gain enough to make the UK give up on north America entirely, then the USA is more than twice the size of OTL, the native Americans suffer even worse, and who knows what the cold war may bring.
OTOH, it isn't really likely that the colonists are going to be able to force the UK to give up on north America in it's entirety, and then the question becomes more, what (if any) territorial changes take place as a result of these victories. As the OP, we will defer to your take on what you have in mind, so please share a bit more details.![]()
To the Canadiens and their native allies, the British were an ocean away while the Americans were on their doorstep and eager for more land. Also, the British had successfully defused the situation with the Quebec Act of 1774, in which French civil law was restored in the colony.
There were some Canadiens who volunteered on the side of the United States, notably Jean-François Hamtramck. But most were uninterested in the conflict.
I have a few timelines where Hanover fell in the 7 Years war and Great Britain lost access to all those Hessian/Brunswick mercenaries that made up half of the 40,000 man "British Army" in 1776.
True, the British had offered enough concessions to make them more palatable than the Americans, with whom they'd fought for decades.
However, many of these concessions were pulled after the American Revolutionary War and the French might have regretted that decision later.
The best option for the USA at this time was to agree that Quebec would be independent after the war, they would not have agreed to join the US. I'm not sure if Quebec would prefer independence or returning to France, though.
Any opinions on that?
First- It isn't Canada, it's the Province of Quebec. Canada doesn't exist, and in this ATL Canada WON'T exist because Canada was created as a result of English loyalists coming to what in OTL becomes Upper Canada (Ontario).
I suspect that the British Army's size was money-limited more than limited by the manpower available, so without the Hessians (which were an efficient route since they were already trained) they'd recruit troops up to the number they could afford.
I think they'd prefer French rule, if only because they had no experience in self-government at this time and their population was still quite small (around 90,000 in 1775).
This is a bit pedantic. Canada was its name under French rule and the people continued to call themselves Canadiens thereafter. Prior to 1763, Quebec had referred only to the capital city.
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