Frederick II had vast wealth from growing wheat in Sicilian slave plantations and selling pasta, a nutricious, durable and tasty food of which the Just Poets have sung. Hall&Oates:
Ah yes, those great troubadors Hall & Oates, written about extensively by Froissart and Matthew Paris, regulars at Eleanor of Aquitaine's Court of Love.
I feel what’s very likely is some king declaring one of his sons KoJ and the other KoE, in which case there’s no grounds from anyone from Europe to complain. At any rate, I don’t think aid would be forfeited simply if the Egyptian barons broke off, as long as they didn’t go native and convert to another religion like Coptic Christianity.
In eygipt you are probably right for most of eygipt, but an area that might but since southern eygipt is far from the crusader power base I imagine if the region is fully subdued then the crusaders would likely be relying on the assistance of the nubian coptic kingdoms to hold down southern eygipt (possibly with the assistance of the ethiopian copts if the crusaders can form a united christian front along the nial) in the areas directly administered by copts I think they may have a chance at rebounding. They should probably get at least as far north as
the lusignan in cyprus disagree with you, they were for almost 300 years in control of cyprus which was a totally orthodox island, but at no time did they convert to orthodoxy, or to bizantine catholicism, I doubt any crusader king would do that., this would certainly be frowned upon by the pope, and also by other nobles in Europe, which could be a problem depending on which house is the king of egypt, not only that, But the conversion could be used by a nobleman to overthrow the king and seize the throne, especially if the papacy does not approve (something similar to the situation of Pedro I in Castile)
impossible, give me an example of a crusader noble converting to eastern christianity or islam,
the plantagenet who were French Normans ruled England for years and still spoke French, with kings like Richard Lionheart speaking French as their first language., The non-European language that a crusader noble would speak would be Greek
I can't because no crusader state survived.
the plantagenet assimilated in a country of the same religion, I find it quite difficult for a crusader king to convert to islam, he will not be isolated in a sea of muslims, even if they are a minority, He'll still be raised by Catholics, he'll still go to Catholic mass, he will still remain in contact with Europe like the lusignan of Cyprus, he will also have trade with Genoa and Venice
Kingdom of cyprus And for nearly 300 years, and in no time did they convert or abandon their French culture for Greek culture., Even when the Lusignan took over the Armenian kingdom of Cilicia They not converted to Armenian Christianity if I'm not mistaken (The first Armenian king of the house of lusignan was Constantine II born Guy of lusignan).
The Plantagenets were assimilated. Their only lasting effect being on the English language. And it is much easier to convert a people who are closer to you religiously than distinct. The Safavids were able to convert Sunni Persia to Shia through persecution, were they trying to convert Persia to Christianity it would be much more difficult.
this is interesting, let's say the crusader kingdom of egypt and jerusalem lasts until the mongols, when the mongols conquer persia and sack baghdad, this could have interesting effects on the muslim psyche of The time, Since Egypt and Jerusalem are in the hands of the Crusaders, and Persia is in the hands of the Mongols, there are no large Muslim empires/states left in the Middle East, apart from a few Turkish states in Anatolia, but of course that It depends on what the Byzantines will do in the meantime between the conquest of Egypt by the Crusaders and the arrival of the Mongols, May be the Byzantines reconquer more territories in Anatolia And some state in the hejaz and some states in the south of the arabian peninsula
the Crusaders would probably lose to the Mongols, but I think they would probably become tributaries/vassals of the Mongols, of course things will get very complicated when the Ilkhanate becomes Muslim
But wasn't the christian population of Egypt still very large and significant at that time? It would be easier for the crusaders to convert to the local christian rite (like others proposed here) than to become Islamic.
the only way i see for that to be plausible by 1260 is that the fourth crusade actually goes to Egypt and is successful the and laskaris takes the throne circa mid 1200s or 1210s even if 1204 did happen in 1241 the sultanate of rum was made to a vassal so no real power aside from who ever is ruling hejaz would exist i don't think Islam would be over but it would be time of crisis
the Mongols were tolerant i don't know how much ( depending on the pod) 100 years to 80 years of crusader rule changes the local religion before the ilkhante becomes mulsim majority like in the otl
Speaking Arabic? maybe. But then again, Arabs were once a minority in Egypt themselves, and they dislodged coptic in favor of Arabic after hundreds of years of rule. And the number of Europeans setting sail to Egypt would be orders of magnitude greater than to Jerusalem, as it's already filthy rich. You may as well see Italian, French or German permeate Egypt, if a crusader kingdom persists.
Definitely not certain. The mountainous terrain of the Maghreb makes it harder to conquer and hold. Also, by this time its native Christian population is nearly gone.
