What would be the goals of a Fascist Russia?

What would be the goals of Russia if it became fascist during WW2? Who would be their allies and main enemies? What countries would the Russians seek to annex into Russia and what countries would they aim to turn into puppet states? And what would their fascism be: would they have their own version of the Nazi "New Order" (perhaps they'd be obsessed with Constantinople?) or the Japanese "Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere" and if so, what would it look like? How powerful would the Fascist Russia be? What would even be of Germany, could it possibly turn communist instead?

(also, if Germany were to become communist, who would win between Fascist Russia and Commie Germany?)
 
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A lot of this depends on the character of Russian Fascism ITTL. Is it some sort of Slavic racism, letting it ally Poland? Is it some sort of Russian State Fascism with a heavy dose of Orthodoxy, pushing it towards something like a friendly regime in Romania.
How much land did it lose after WW1? This will influence its character and its goals.

Commie Germany loses one on one with a Fascist Russia most likely, seeing how western powers will probably aid Russia and blockade Germany in this scenario.
 
A fascist Russia would probably be more hegemonistic than the USSR in the OTL. Its ultimate goal may be to dominate all of Europe. To do that, it would have to overcome its chief rival on the continent, Germany (especially if the reich wee ideologically incompatible by being either racist or commie). It might double cross Germany by agreeing to a nonaggression pact like the one of '39, then after the reich turns westward against France, invades Germany from the East, capturing Berlin.
 
A lot of this depends on the character of Russian Fascism ITTL. Is it some sort of Slavic racism, letting it ally Poland? Is it some sort of Russian State Fascism with a heavy dose of Orthodoxy, pushing it towards something like a friendly regime in Romania.
How much land did it lose after WW1? This will influence its character and its goals.

Commie Germany loses one on one with a Fascist Russia most likely, seeing how western powers will probably aid Russia and blockade Germany in this scenario.

Agreed. Are we talking a less racial (comparatively), more nationalistic Italian Fascism, or a hyper-racist Nazi fascism. If it's the later, I'd expect any territorial aims to be projected on South-Slav Europe with annexation of Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia, Montenagro possibly being in the cards as war aims.
 
I know that there have been fascist or quasi-fascists movements in Russia, like people who were more tsarist than the tsar, but their aims? I don't know either.

  1. Uniting all the Slavs?
  2. Liberating the Orthodox and some other Christians, down to Jerusalem?
  3. Taking all of Europe?
  4. Or even Eurasia?
 
Largely the same as those of the imperial and communist one.
1. The old empire in Eastern Europe.
2. The straits.
3. Expansion in Central Asia.
4. Dealing with Japan.
5. Expansion into China.
 
Largely the same as those of the imperial and communist one.
1. The old empire in Eastern Europe.
2. The straits.
3. Expansion in Central Asia.
4. Dealing with Japan.
5. Expansion into China.
Agreed. Russia's ambitions, no matter what type of government are more determined by geography than politics.
 
Such a state would be very dangerous and very powerful

First it would seek to reclaim any Imperial Territory that was lost.

Panslavism would take root as well- Poland, Czechs, Slovakia, Serbia, Croatia, Bulgaria would all be seen as properly Russian

Panorthodoxy would extend it- Romania, Greece

Now all this can fall pretty quickly to a well armed Russia that exploits the divisions among the nations facing her. By WWII, troops aren't limited by railroads and horse wagons so rapid movement between fronts is possible Poland is the only respectable power out there.

But the movement isn't likely to be satisfied. Austria, Hungary and Germany must all pay for what they had done to Holy Mother Russia

Japan must pay for 1904

Britain and France feasted on the blood of Russian soldiers taking all the spoils of victory and leaving Russia in tatters.

Scandinavia is the ancestoral homeland of Rurik and must be liberated as well

Only Italy and Iberia remain and should be taken to secure Europe as well

The Ottomans are the ancient enemy and should be saved for last. Restoration of Orthodoxy and removal of the Heretical Bishop of Rome would be the ultimate glory


The scary thing is: Russia could be far more successful than the Nazi Germans at this
 
Well, for this idea of a fascist Russia I was thinking of fascism in the sense of it being a very aggressive form that's somewhat similar to Nazism. As in, Russia loses land and blames territorial losses on ethnic minorities (Ukrainians, Kazakhs, Germans, yadda yadda ya) within the Russian Empire; seeks to expand Russian "living space" west into Poland, the Baltic states and Germany; and takes away democracy while using racial rhetoric. Then this Russian Empire effectively becomes "Nazi Russia" where they focus on a Russian version of Lebensraum for their goals. But I was also considering the possibility of it being similar to "Japanese fascism", so it could be your choice really and how you envision the war going down in either scenario.
I wanted to use something a little bit different as the Whites winning the civil war is a popular subject here, of course.

Has anyone also considered the possibility that such a Russia might be very anti-Turkic too? What would be of them? Would there be a genocide against Muslim Caucasian mountain peoples (like the Chechens) and Turkic peoples like the Tartars, or would they all be enslaved (which could happen to Finns, other Balts and Mongols too)? I think that the Magyars/Hungarians wouldn't be treated very well because of their steppe origin and Catholic faith. Aside from that, there could be a seize of the North European Plain, Iran, and Korea too. Not forgetting about the Japanese, though; Japanese at the time would certainly be targeted as part of the ethnic cleansing program and for revenge for the loss of the Russo-Japanese War. There would likely be an invasion of China to support the KMT beforehand, displacing the Japanese Kwantung Army from Manchuria and giving the nationalists the manpower that would be much needed. The war on the Japanese could take some time, but I think they could eventually take it and turn it into a puppet state.
 
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The Soviet Union treated non-Russian ethnic groups rather poorly. Who knows how much further a Fascist Russia would go in persecuting ethnic minorities they hated...
 
Russia has long had several key strategic goals: the first is to create a buffer between their heartlands which you see in OTL with the creation of the Warsaw pact and their long long ownership of Ukraine, the Baltics, Finland etc. Second is about maximising their reach on the world stage, this is done by securing coastline or key points of access such as the Bosporus straights, outer Manchuria etc. These goals are pushed for by the imperial Government, the Soviets and even today under Putin.

First question that needs answering is how the Russians hold all this together because a fascist movement emerging in the 1910's-20s is going to have to contend with nationalism in Ukraine etc. To counter this I'd suggest that a fascist movement is likely pan-slavic in order to gain support from the Ukrainians and Belorussians. This obviously then adds more dimensions to their foreign policy goals as now they will seek to unify up with other Slavs in Poland, Serbia etc. Other regions such as Germany, Greece, Turkey etc will be satellites.

In keeping with the previously mentioned goals the Bosporus will be annexed, furthermore Armenia with be vastly expanded and Turkey reduced. This guarantees the Russians access to the Med, and solidifies their access to the middle East while taking full ownership of natural barriers in the Caucuses. Persia too will be reduced in size and established as a Satellite to secure access to the Indian Ocean. I'd suggest Manchuria is also probably annexed off the Japanese, Korea is puppeted and Japan is weakened in some way - economic dependence is probably one main method.

German east prussia, as with OTL, would be annexed in order to solidify control of the Baltic. I'd suggest Scandinavia is subjugated, if anything just to ensure Russia can access the North sea, in the later 20th century grabbing Iceland would be of huge strategic advantage to them. Grabbing Chinese ports would be the final bonus land grab.

Other than that honestly I don't think Russia actually needs allies, if you throw in a communist Germany you're looking at a very easy war for the Russians. If not the state will probably be much more militaristic than the soviets pre-nazi Germany which strengthens their position if Germany invades. Power wise I'd say they're likely unstoppable for most of the early 20th century, if they can get their navy right they'd dominate Eurasia and Europe. A NATO style situation is probably all that saves western Europe from being under heel to some degree.
 
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