What Would A Modern Day War Plan Red Look Like?

It's a desire to have homerule and determine your own course in the world. Which I understand. Still among the UK, the US and the former dominions I don't think there's any differences that great that anyone would see the war as a fight to the death. Obviously to get to a war things would probably have to change some and this might not be the case any more.

All wars are to the death, it wouldn't be a war if nobody died. Your suggestion that any of the countries would be perfectly content to be annexed is just plain wrong.
 
That's right. We will be angry and we will hate and we will come and kill Americans. Because at that point we're in the blitz and they're dropping bombs on us.

I suppose they will eventually win when there's no-one left to fight here. But it won't be pretty and they won't come out looking good.

I don't disagree with any of this.

And that example wasn't meant to make the American side in some theoretical Manifest Destiny conquest of Canada look sympathetic, it's just kind of a well-known example of how "terror" tactics and the like can just as easily serve to solidify the resistance of the people they're fighting.
 
War Against NATO?

I think that all of the NATO allies would be obligated to come to Canada's defense. Read Articl5 of the 1948 Treaty.



The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, ncluding the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.​
 
I think that all of the NATO allies would be obligated to come to Canada's defense. Read Articl5 of the 1948 Treaty.



The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, ncluding the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.​

The US is in NATO too.
It wouldn't be unprecedented for them to remain neutral.
 
All wars are to the death, it wouldn't be a war if nobody died. Your suggestion that any of the countries would be perfectly content to be annexed is just plain wrong.

The death of individuals, not the death of the country. WWII for Germany was about the complete destruction of Russia, but not of France. France surrendered, a resistance movement was formed but no one suggested the army should fight to the very last man. They accepted defeat and fought it as they could. Russia was a fight to the death on a country wide level. So they held in desperate situations fought until a fifth of the population of the country became corpses, because if they didn't they all would have been.

Most wars are not fought with the goal of complete destruction, enslavement or total domination. If that is the goal then yes I see nukes coming out. If the war is over trade rights, or even Vancouver Island or something similar why resort to nukes. Wouldn't you rather have a diminished country and continue to fight by other means than have no country. That's like saying I'd rather set fire to both mine and my neighbor's entire properties than allow him rights to the dock in the backyard.
 
This is supposed to be a modern day version of War Plan Red. I don't think Canada would get attacked by the US in such a scenario. War Plan Red is the USA versus Britain and her dominions/possessions. Modern day Canada doesn't fit into that. Australia, New Zealand, India, and etc. also don't fit. In a US-UK war, I imagine Canada would want to remain out of the war. Canada has more to lose than gain from fighting the US.
 

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This is supposed to be a modern day version of War Plan Red. I don't think Canada would get attacked by the US in such a scenario. War Plan Red is the USA versus Britain and her dominions/possessions. Modern day Canada doesn't fit into that. Australia, New Zealand, India, and etc. also don't fit. In a US-UK war, I imagine Canada would want to remain out of the war. Canada has more to lose than gain from fighting the US.

Your right that WP Red was all of the British Empire. War Plan Crimson is Canada alone.
 
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