What would a Japanese victory look like in terms of atrocities?

Wendigo

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If Japan won WW2 and managed to achieve all its territorial goals (ASB I know), would their IOTL atrocities and horrific behaviors* have continued in the territories under their control?

Were there any Japanese plans for genocide similar to Nazi Germany's Generalplan Ost?

Which groups would fare the best/worst under Japanese occupation?

Would the IJA continue to behave like sadistic psychopaths?

Would Japanese policies be analogous to a victorious Reich's policies in terms of mistreatment and death toll?

*Unit 731, comfort women, Nanking, Three Alls etc.
 
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Wendigo

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Define win WW2, and does Pearl Harbour and the subsequent war in the Pacific have to happen?
Win meaning they have achieved their Greater East Asian Co Prosperity Sphere. So they've conquered/annexed all of China, Southeast Asia, the Pacific islands etc.
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The Japanese did not have a "Generalplan Ost" equivalent. However assuming they had achieved their territorial goals, it would not be pleasant to be non-Japanese. If you look at Korea they did their best between 1905 and 1945 to eliminate Korean culture. While local languages might be spoken, Japanese would be what was taught in schools and used for commerce etc. Use of non-Japanese for forced labor, "comfort women" and so forth would be expected. Given the sort of treatment lower class Japanese might expect in many situations, non-Japanese would be even more vulnerable. Of course if there was any violence against the Japanese, the response would be as ugly as it was in WWII.

Once the fighting was over, the "active" atrocities you saw would most likely stop, however casual violence would occur and if getting rid of the population in an area served Japanese needs...
 

ben0628

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The question isn't could they have won but about if they DID win (ASB or otherwise.) Same as threads concerning a Nazi victory.

People don't like that argument. Not only that but unlike Japan, people have been able to successfully argue a German Victory.

Anywho, if Japan could find a way to somehow win, there would be a lot of barbaric acts committed but no planned genocide of non Japanese peoples. You'd see enslavement, random killings, and the occasional Rape of Nanking but nothing like the Holocaust. Here's the main difference between Germany and Japan. Both were sick and twisted. Both saw others as racially inferior. However, while Nazi leaders were hell bent on extermination, Japan was willing to tolerate living with the "inferiors" as long as they could exploit them and legally murder one or two every now and then if the average Japanese soldier occasionally felt like it.

As for who'd live best under Japanese rule/vassalage, probably people from Thailand and Burma (fought with Japan during the war).
 

CalBear

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Since the only way this happens is LITERAL divine intervention as a guess everyone the Japanese want to eliminate just disappears and all the rest of the population shows utter devotion to the Emperor.
 
If they won and were writing history about it in 2016, they'd say the Japanese Empire was about as bad as the European Empires, but they'd place themselves as better because they lack the continental scale genocides (North America and Australia).

Any war that they won would differ from ours so much that it's hard to say, the path they were going down by '36 was not likely to end in success.

I think it's safe to assume they'd gradually decolonize like the Europeans did, just over a longer time-scale, and skewing to the more violent side.
 
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