What sort of Peace Treaty would occur in a late CP victory?

Pardon me, Douglas, but this is Entente-wank. In OTL (with the US on board) during the spring offensive 18 the british government thought they were going to loose.


As late as June 1918 (see John Toland's "No Man's land") Lord Milner wanted preparations to be made for Britain and the US to defend Africa and Asia from the CPs. once France and Italy had collapsed.
 
First of all, the idea of the BEF in a "pocket" or even separated from the French army is ASB. Even Michael on a good day is going to maybe take Amiens and screw up the supply situation for a few months, but that's it.

Don't just throw the term ASB please, explain why you think it is impossible.
 
Beer

It might be that we're slightly at cross purposes. I'm not saying that some deal is impossible. What I'm saying is if the Germans push too hard things will fall apart for them.

On reinforcements for the British army don't forget that Lloyd-George had kept reserves back in Britain to avoid Haig pulling another Passendale. They can be called up and if Italy surrenders but France hasn't yet made peace British and France can pull forces back from Italy and Salonika. [Depending on the time available].

The big problem with this discussion is we're talking about what might happen, how various nations might respond to those events and equally importantly how others might thing they will respond. As such laying several layers of might have beens, possibilities and chances on top of each other. As such a lot can happen with enough changes.

Steve

Hi, Steve!
I never said that the moral in 1918 was good, it was acceptable. There were problems because of the blockade and there was alot simmering under the surface, but as long as there was hope for a victory, the moral held.
I know the british were fed up with the war, too, but I don´t know how down the barrel the BEF was. It can´t be too good, since any substancial reinforcements would have come from other fronts. But I agree, smashing the BEF would have been costly. Doable, but costly. In any case, the Heer would have pushed against the french lines. Several independent sources agree that France was spent worse than the CP. The german army might not be able to push much further, but France alone would have been unable to hold the lines.
As I wrote, the foreign ministry was not the disaster from earlier and knew, don´t push too far when the negociations come.
 
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