What 'More' could the Japanese have realistically gotten from the Versailles treaty of 1918.

I think they could have gotten their request to be considered racially equal to the Europeans if there had been a more progressive president and congress.
 
I think they could have gotten their request to be considered racially equal to the Europeans if there had been a more progressive president and congress.

And they should have asked that the Japanese were recognized as racial equals, not all Asians/people of color. Western countries simply could not accept a clause that would say that their colonies, as well as African-, Asian-, Latin- and Native-Americans were equals to Whites. In terms of realpolitik, Japan should have understood that especially as they had colonies themselves.
 

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Keeping the captured German leasehold on Qingdao.

If the Japanese had “earned” it through combat early in the war, Japan might have been able to add the phospate rich island of Nauru, and the Bismarck archipelago, to its central pacific mandate.

Of course if the Beijing or Canton governments are dumb enough to declare war on the Entente, Japan can get more, at Chinese expense, like a League of Nations mandate over Manchuria, maybe even Mongolia.

I do not see the racial equality clause passing, even if it was just about equality of the Japanese as suggested above.

The US, and even more the Dominions, saw that as a wedge Japan would try to use against immigration restriction policies those countries were becoming enamored of.
 
Keeping the captured German leasehold on Qingdao.

If the Japanese had “earned” it through combat early in the war, Japan might have been able to add the phospate rich island of Nauru, and the Bismarck archipelago, to its central pacific mandate.

Of course if the Beijing or Canton governments are dumb enough to declare war on the Entente, Japan can get more, at Chinese expense, like a League of Nations mandate over Manchuria, maybe even Mongolia.

I do not see the racial equality clause passing, even if it was just about equality of the Japanese as suggested above.

The US, and even more the Dominions, saw that as a wedge Japan would try to use against immigration restriction policies those countries were becoming enamored of.

More naval vessels, aircraft, a few ports, recognition of control of Sakhalin and maybe Kamtchatka, and greater trade rights in Chinese ports earlier on. LoN mandate on Manchuria seems about the edge of plausible.
 
Keeping the captured German leasehold on Qingdao.

If the Japanese had “earned” it through combat early in the war, Japan might have been able to add the phospate rich island of Nauru, and the Bismarck archipelago, to its central pacific mandate.

Of course if the Beijing or Canton governments are dumb enough to declare war on the Entente, Japan can get more, at Chinese expense, like a League of Nations mandate over Manchuria, maybe even Mongolia.

I do not see the racial equality clause passing, even if it was just about equality of the Japanese as suggested above.

The US, and even more the Dominions, saw that as a wedge Japan would try to use against immigration restriction policies those countries were becoming enamored of.

Agreed, it was already very unlikely that the West would acknowledge Japan (alone) as racial equal... but it was still more plausible than the West agreeing to "racial equality" overall.
 
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