What modern OTL things would be dismissed as ASB?

Computers, or as how they are now(instead of th gignatic machines they were still in 80's). In fact, the rapid developement of technology during the past 100 years.
 
Fallowing the same suit Poland without Lwów in it's borders would also be considered very strange.
Also the scale of polish resurge in the interwar period is also pretty unrealistic. I mean Poland NOT being a puppet state of either Germany or Russia? ;)
Actually, with a POD after 1387, and up to 1648, it is pretty unrealistic for Moscovy to be not a puppet of Poland-Lithuania. Hmm. Maybe puppet is to much, but a weaker state most likely...

Same goes for Kingdom of Prussia united Germany, considering that before 1648 all a Polish king had to do was sth like this:
"Today We are going hunting, tomorrow We are taking Princerly Prussia from those smelly Hohenzollerns to Ourselves and the day after We are going to the theater"
 
Actually, with a POD after 1387, and up to 1648, it is pretty unrealistic for Moscovy to be not a puppet of Poland-Lithuania. Hmm. Maybe puppet is to much, but a weaker state most likely...

Same goes for Kingdom of Prussia united Germany, considering that before 1648 all a Polish king had to do was sth like this:
"Today We are going hunting, tomorrow We are taking Princerly Prussia from those smelly Hohenzollerns to Ourselves and the day after We are going to the theater"

Well, why the hell didn't they? :confused:
 
Well, why the hell didn't they? :confused:
And that, my friend, is a very good question. Most probably the importance of that decision was not recognized at the time, and the king and nobility were mainly concerned in acquiring and defending their lands in the east. We suffer the consquences of that mistake to this day. (;))
 
The fact that after 1945, there were no great power shooting wars. "Nearly seventy years with nothing but brushfire conflicts? And this 'Soviet Union,' with the whole 'someone reads an early 19th century book and thinks it looks good, so bases an entire country around its principles' cliche, falls without a single shot being fired? I suppose this is your way of putting a spin on things, huh? Well, this is completely ASB. Go take your n00bness to OTL.com, where it belongs." A pun on the name of OTL.com.

For a POD before about 1890: "Air-craft, you call them? What is this? Some machine that stays airmobile that weighs more than a balloon with no visible means of support? Oh, that's an ENGINE? Powered by what? And where are the horses and trains? Oh, these things, these, umm, auto-mobiles, you called them? What's with that one?"
 
The Americans winning the Revolutionary The Americans winning the Revolutionary War.

The US winning not just the Mexican-American War, but every battle in it. Young officer Robert E Lee's ability to find previously unknown ways around entrenched Mexican positions would be particularly derided as ASBish.

A successful businessman with no military training, Nathan Bedford Forrest, becoming one of the best commanders the Confederacy had.

An unsuccessful soldier and farmer, Ulysses S Grant, becoming leader of the Union armies, President of the US, and a best selling author.

Louis Napoleon, the Prince Imperial, being killed by the Zulus while serving in the British Army, because his horse was skittish and a strap on his saddle broke.

The assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand. The assassins look like the Keystone Cops at first, chickening out or throwing bombs at the wrong car. The one guy who tried anything then ineptly fails at both drowning and poisoning himself. Meanwhile the one assassin who doesn’t flee town decides to stop at a local café on a whim. He leaves just in time to find spot the Archduke at short range. The Archduke’s car just happens to have made a wrong turn and then started reversing back toward the correct street at the exact right time at the only intersection in Sarajevo that mattered. This assassin, unlike his bumbling compatriots, fires twice, killing two people.

An unsuccessful Austrian artist, Adolf Hitler, becoming leader of Germany.

Mortally wounded secret service officer Leslie Coffelt, who shouldn’t even have still been conscious, firing one shot at a distance of thirty feet and blowing the head off of the would-be assassin of Harry Truman.

An Austrian bodybuilder, Arnold Schwartzenegger, having a successful movie career and later becoming governor of California.
War.

The US winning not just the Mexican-American War, but every battle in it. Young officer Robert E Lee's ability to find previously unknown ways around entrenched Mexican positions would be particularly derided as ASBish.

A successful businessman with no military training, Nathan Bedford Forrest becoming one of the best commanders the Confederacy had.

An unsuccessful soldier and farmer, Ulysses S Grant, become leader of the Union armies, President of the US, and a best selling author.

Louis Napoleon, the Prince Imperial, being killed by the Zulus while serving in the British Army, because his horse was skittish and a strap on his saddle broke.

The assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand. The assassins look like the Keystone Cops at first, chickening out or throwing bombs at the wrong car. The one guy who tried anything then ineptly fails at both drowning and poisoning himself. Meanwhile the one assassin who doesn’t flee town decides to stop at a local café on a whim. He leaves just in time to find spot the Archduke at short range. The Archduke’s car just happens to have made a wrong turn and then started reversing back toward the correct street at the exact right time at the only intersection in Sarajevo that mattered. This assassin unlike his bumbling compatriots, fires twice, killing two people.

An unsuccessful Austrian artist, Adolf Hitler, becoming leader of Germany.

Mortally wounded secret service officer Leslie Coffelt, who shouldn’t even have still been conscious, firing one shot at a distance of thirty feet and blowing the head off of the would-be assassin of Harry Truman.

An Austrian bodybuilder, Arnold Schwartzenegger, having a successful movie career and later becoming governor of California.
 
The Internet

Canada:p

The existence of a multilingual Belgium that is distinct from the Netherlands

The existence of an independent Moldova where a Romania exists

Having three countries in part on Boneo, while having only one country in Australia

If you are Filipino, four.
 

NomadicSky

Banned
A Communist Cuba 90 miles off the US when that same government is willing to sent troops to the other side of the planet to fight communism.
Wow.
 
Keith Richards.

Hitler's ability to not only weasel out of getting convicted for the Beer Hall Putsch, but to become Chancellor and then Fuhrer only a decade later.
 
I think the Holocaust would be the biggest form of ASB to past generations. I mean people can imagine big wars, and even power sources to run machines, but could any world leader think of killing people off in an industrial fashion? Pogroms did involve killing, but they tended to look more like riots then genocide. The British and Americans tried to do away with the native Americans but stuck to treaties, and forcing them off land.

I think it will be a rather alien thought to outright slaughter an entire population, true in the past large scale murder occured, but it followed a war, an uprising or some such thing. Would a Russian monarch think of killing everyone when so many skills are amongst the people, or at the very least more farm hands.
 

randomkeith

Banned
Australia:

Like sure there was this huge land mass that the Dutch and the Portugeus new about but didn't settle or even really bother to explore. And eventually the British take it but only to put their criminals in.

Theres no way such a huge are of land could go unclaimed and unsettled for such a long time. Then the end result is a giant jail. Yeah rite.
 
If I were from some ATL, the borders of Norway would seem pretty far fetched to me.
I mean, why didn't Sweden ever go "oh, that Bodo place looks nice *grab*"

Some places in Europe being fought over loads of times, changing hands every couple of decades, but noone ever bothers to grab San Marino, Monaco etc...???

Belgium is of course totally ASB (Hey, I live there, I should know, right!)
I mean, EVERYTHING about Belgium is wrongwrongwrong.
4 million French, right next door to France but not a part of it????
6 million Dutch who never lift a finger to rejoin the Netherlands???
And even if you accept that a Belgium can come to be ... having it NOT break up after WW2???
And maybe the biggest WTF about Belgium ... no civil war? Ever???
 
South Africa experiencing its (relatively) peaceful revolution. In the 1980s nobody would have thought that blacks would have got control of South Africa with hardly a shot being fired.
 
it taking so long to invent the stirrup - i mean duh!

England not being able to make the conquest of Scotland stick when they managed it with Wales and Ireland. I mean, England was the super power of it's day! how could the Scots have held them off?

Someone who's 'brilliant' ideas managed to get anglo-french and anzac forces thoroughly defeated by the ottomans in WW1 and get anglo-french forces defeated by the germans in norway in WW2 becoming widely regarded as the greatest British Prime Minister ever

Oh wait, the ottoman empire defeating the 2 most powerful colonial empires in 1915.

Whilst we're at it, the Germans managing to defeat the British in Norway in 1940. The Royal Navy was to strong! there's no way Germany, given the abilities of the luftwaffe and kriegsmarine in 1940 could ever defeat the RN in such an operation. pure ASB
 
Australia:

Like sure there was this huge land mass that the Dutch and the Portugeus new about but didn't settle or even really bother to explore. And eventually the British take it but only to put their criminals in.

Theres no way such a huge are of land could go unclaimed and unsettled for such a long time. Then the end result is a giant jail. Yeah rite.

That the land mass is judged not worth the expense of setting up a colony doesn't look that ASBish to me. What natural resources they thought they'd find there? While at the same time they were busy colonizing areas rich in everything they wanted?

The inner Sahara today isn't densely populated. Why nobody's settled it?
 
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