That chapter made it feel like Kolchak’s Russia may have been a slavic version of the RU, in which case sane is relative
"What Madness Is This?" Volume I: The Union Forever
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I could see them becoming weird Progressive Liberal Capitalists before long or even Social Capitalists which could be best described as "Champagne Socialist Captialists decide to give there workers Proseco and beat up the ones that ask for champagne". I could imagine the Eduists being confused by them.
I'm hoping we get more werid left wing/right wing ideologues to counteract the old school ideologues of Imperial Europe (I can't wait for Evola, the Super Fascist).
So I have a question followed by a few notes:
What are the ideological colors for lack of a better term? Socialism OTL uses red as a consistent example. It's mentioned that Eduism favors green and black seems like a safe bet for Beutelism, but what about the rest? The fascists as an American led bloc most likely use Union Blue instead of OTL brown, but I can't remember if I read that Illuminism uses red or if I made that up. Maybe yellow representing light? I know Europa is blue on the maps but I don't think of "authoritarian monarchism" as having a strong color association (besides perhaps purple).
If the Illuminist Bloc becomes Social Capitalist that opens up a tripartite economic struggle in the twentieth century between corporatism, capitalism, and syndicalism, and would lead to *American politicians denouncing capitalism as a dire threat to the American way of life while glorifying corporate power.
This next one's a doozy. Going back to the faction color question, given Evola's OTL belief in alchemy and likely desire to create a sort of Brave New World caste system TTL, I think that using the steps of the alchemical Magnum Opus as caste names would make sense. The first step (Nigredo) represents disorganized chaos and symbolizes the lower classes, using the sonnenrad as a symbol. The next step (Albedo) uses a crescent moon symbol and represents purification. It could represent whatever "middle class" means in Europa, or the business class or whatever. The third step (Citrinitas), symbolized by a dot in a circle representing the sun, represents enlightenment and could consist of the religious/government/military bureaucracy. The final step (Rubedo), symbolized by a combination of the sun and moon symbols, represents perfection and the aristocracy/leader caste.
It's not perfect I'll admit but attempting to impose some sort of societist caste system on a twentieth century great power was never going to track perfectly anyway. The end result would likely be a tiered pyramid symbol, perhaps ending at the yellow Citrinitas stage with the Rubedo symbol floating above it like an unholy Eye of Providence? You'd end up with iconography vaguely similar to the "Five Races One Country" concept in the Republic of China, albeit obviously ranked, and would create an amusing scenario where a rainbow symbol represents a repressive traditionalist totalitarian ideology. There would even be a name for the arrangement, as the Cauda Pavonis in alchemy is represented by a spectrum of colors.
What are the ideological colors for lack of a better term? Socialism OTL uses red as a consistent example. It's mentioned that Eduism favors green and black seems like a safe bet for Beutelism, but what about the rest? The fascists as an American led bloc most likely use Union Blue instead of OTL brown, but I can't remember if I read that Illuminism uses red or if I made that up. Maybe yellow representing light? I know Europa is blue on the maps but I don't think of "authoritarian monarchism" as having a strong color association (besides perhaps purple).
If the Illuminist Bloc becomes Social Capitalist that opens up a tripartite economic struggle in the twentieth century between corporatism, capitalism, and syndicalism, and would lead to *American politicians denouncing capitalism as a dire threat to the American way of life while glorifying corporate power.
This next one's a doozy. Going back to the faction color question, given Evola's OTL belief in alchemy and likely desire to create a sort of Brave New World caste system TTL, I think that using the steps of the alchemical Magnum Opus as caste names would make sense. The first step (Nigredo) represents disorganized chaos and symbolizes the lower classes, using the sonnenrad as a symbol. The next step (Albedo) uses a crescent moon symbol and represents purification. It could represent whatever "middle class" means in Europa, or the business class or whatever. The third step (Citrinitas), symbolized by a dot in a circle representing the sun, represents enlightenment and could consist of the religious/government/military bureaucracy. The final step (Rubedo), symbolized by a combination of the sun and moon symbols, represents perfection and the aristocracy/leader caste.
It's not perfect I'll admit but attempting to impose some sort of societist caste system on a twentieth century great power was never going to track perfectly anyway. The end result would likely be a tiered pyramid symbol, perhaps ending at the yellow Citrinitas stage with the Rubedo symbol floating above it like an unholy Eye of Providence? You'd end up with iconography vaguely similar to the "Five Races One Country" concept in the Republic of China, albeit obviously ranked, and would create an amusing scenario where a rainbow symbol represents a repressive traditionalist totalitarian ideology. There would even be a name for the arrangement, as the Cauda Pavonis in alchemy is represented by a spectrum of colors.
Papa Musso and Super-Catholic Evolism* will be appearing soon! And then we'll get some good ol' cultural updates. I can't wait! H.P. Lovecraft will also be making another appearance, as well as a host of new characters!
We'll also be getting a look at the "Oswald" family real soon!
We'll also be getting a look at the "Oswald" family real soon!
Sorry BUSSA! Posted at the exact same time. Lol
I would say
Traditional monarchy: Royal Purple
Corporate-Social-Fascism: Blue
Illuminism: Red, the color of the flames of the Enlightenment
Eduism: Green
Beutelism: Black
I would say
Traditional monarchy: Royal Purple
Corporate-Social-Fascism: Blue
Illuminism: Red, the color of the flames of the Enlightenment
Eduism: Green
Beutelism: Black
Yeah I saw that. Anyway that's kinda what I thought. If you end up using the alchemy thing the Rubedo step sometimes uses purple for some reason so there's that. Focusing on the alchemy thing would create a situation where the fascists and illuminists are focused on spirits and the afterlife while Europa sticks with pure chemistry, which could give them an edge in materials science and chemical weaponry.
You mean besides grind it under the heel of a fascist tide of exiled Europan Zionists?
I still want Victor daugther to become a daenerys in universe, reconquering the russian empire...still hard to happen...
ALL HAIL THE KHATUN!
She only needs a
Also Viktor II is still alive in Siberia. I'm wondering about him escaping the labor camp and after a long period as wanderer through the steppes finding himself in Mongolia nearby a certain tomb...
Here's my personal idea:
I suspect the Maori lived relatively peacefully with the early English/Scottish settlers (which would be less in number due to the Napoleonic War) and in tension with Australian Commonwealth members who kicked them off there land and drove them to the edges of the island (I can see the Commonwealth being more preoccupied with the Aborigines in Eastern Australia than the less populated New Zealand). In the early 1890s with most of the original British settlers dead (being the last people who stopping the Commonwealth members from simply killing the Maori) and accepting Fascism started plans to round up and kill the Maori's.
The Maori's start an insurrection and the Commonwealth is suprised at how well the Maori's do. Eventually more reinforcements come in, but the Maori's returning to Polynesian tradition manage to sail a large portion of the people away towards Dutch Samoa/Indonesia etc. They aren't really stopped by the Commonwealth (with most having a "well it's there problem now" attitude) who decide to round up the remainder that didn't leave and sending them to Concentration Camps. Maori's become mercenaries and hired muscle for the impressed Dutch who see them as being good for putting down uprisings. It could also add to the Commonwealth's mild annoyance towards the increasing multi cultural Dutch.
I hope that's the case.
I for one welcome our new kris-wielding Maori mercenary allies.
When Mexico fell then sailed to the east and haven’t been brought up sense.