What if Winston Churchill and Alexander Fleming never existed?

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There is supposedly a story about Churchill and Fleming. Fleming's father was a farmer and one day he discovered a young Churchill drowning in some mud, Fleming father saved him. Soon after Churchill father, Lord Randolph Churchill, arrived at the farm and offered to give Fleming a education and so Fleming became a doctor and discovered penicillin and Churchill went to to be Prime Minister during World War Two. Let's suppose this story is true, it is probably not true however. Nevertheless lets say that on that fateful day Churchill drowned in the mud, his body was never discovered and Churchill is added to the long list of people who went missing in history, and Fleming became a farmer like his father. How would history be different? Would penicillin ever be discovered or discovered later on or around the same time? How would the timing of the discovery affect history? How would World War Two turn out without Churchill as Prime Minister, was he necessary, would Britain surrender to the Germans after France fell without him? What would the cold war be like with the Third Reich as third superpower along with America and Russia? How influential was he for America, would they join the war without him, how would FDR's presidency turn out without Churchill? Would Britain and America have a special relationship? What do you think?
 
Fleming was a link in a chain (no pun intended! Honest! )of discovery between Almroth Wright and Ernst Chain. His experimental work would have been carried out by someone else. Chain deserves more of the credit anyhow Fleming gained a lot of kudos from being the senior scientist and man technically in charge .
 
How much stronger Britain would have been in late 1930's without Churchill's disastrous term as Chancellor of Exchequer in 1924-1929?
 

TruthfulPanda

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Fir starters - Germany is invaded and crushed in 1944 as there are no stupid Churchill-instigated sideshows and the landing in France happens in 1943.
 
Well, we'd probably not have the disaster that was Galipoli.

Gallipolli was a brilliant idea badly executed, but then, it cost just some 44000 lives for the Allies, a minor affair in grand scheme of things. If one wants to vilify Churchill's actions during WW I I would rather suggest confiscating Turkish battleship Resadiye wasn't that a bright idea. In fact, could delivery have been used as a pawn in negotiations with the Ottomans?

I'm sure some creative engineers could have made a situation in which, say, engine was damaged for a month's worth of repairs just to work things out in August... in addition to offering, say, a few pre-Dredd's instead? With British crews, just to make sure everything will work as planned? Situated nicely next to Sublime Porte?

And, in worst case, if Resadiye is delivered and Ottomans still join Central Powers what is a single battleship worth without working spare part and ammunition delivery and untrained crew?
 
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