What if the Hungarians restore the Habsburg Dynasty?

In OTL the last main thing that Karl I of austria hungary did on his political life was try to take over the Hungarian throne:

"Encouraged by Hungarian royalists ("legitimists"), Charles sought twice in 1921 to reclaim the throne of Hungary, but failed largely because Hungary's regent, Admiral Miklós Horthy (the last commander of the Imperial and Royal Navy), refused to support him. Horthy's failure to support Charles' restoration attempts is often described as "treasonous" by royalists."

According to the same text, Horthy was a monarchist but he was fearfull because the neighbour countries were menacing to invade if he tried to restore the Habsburg empire. The PoD is that Horthy does accept to allow Karl I to be crowned the emperor of Hungary, and as a assurance to the neighbours Karl I makes a public statement to follow the treaty of Trianon (if he keeps following it twenty years later is a completely different thing). What can we expect? Can as time passes the Austrians get closer to habsburg Hungary than to Germany? Could this somehow prevent Hitler raising in Germany?
 
Even with strong, public reassurances managing to prevent a coordinated invasion by a coalition of fearful neighbors, Hungary will be a diplomatic pariah on top of OTL devastation, unable to get back in the game until the dust is settled and somebody else becomes the local boogeyman.
 
Even with strong, public reassurances managing to prevent a coordinated invasion by a coalition of fearful neighbors, Hungary will be a diplomatic pariah on top of OTL devastation, unable to get back in the game until the dust is settled and somebody else becomes the local boogeyman.

Hungary was already pretty much a diplomatic pariah at this period thanks to the little entente. If there is no military action than its not much of a change initially.
 
Even with strong, public reassurances managing to prevent a coordinated invasion by a coalition of fearful neighbors, Hungary will be a diplomatic pariah on top of OTL devastation, unable to get back in the game until the dust is settled and somebody else becomes the local boogeyman.

Basically what was said above. There is no change unless they directly invade, and for the scenario sake they don't.
 
"allow Karl I to be crowned the emperor of Hungary"

This is a nitpick, but I still think it should be raised because everything about this sentence is wrong except for "Hungary".

It was King Karolyi IV and he had already been crowned King of Hungary.

As for the scenario, Hungary already as a pariah state and had already been invaded by its neighbors, so I never understood the reasons for keeping the King out. In any event, if he dies at the same time as OTL Horthy winds up regent anyway for Otto.
 
"allow Karl I to be crowned the emperor of Hungary"

This is a nitpick, but I still think it should be raised because everything about this sentence is wrong except for "Hungary".

It was King Karolyi IV and he had already been crowned King of Hungary.

As for the scenario, Hungary already as a pariah state and had already been invaded by its neighbors, so I never understood the reasons for keeping the King out. In any event, if he dies at the same time as OTL Horthy winds up regent anyway for Otto.

He most likely lives since he died by a combination of bad health taken at Portugal and the depression of losing the crown.
 
"allow Karl I to be crowned the emperor of Hungary"

This is a nitpick, but I still think it should be raised because everything about this sentence is wrong except for "Hungary".

It was King Karolyi IV and he had already been crowned King of Hungary.

As for the scenario, Hungary already as a pariah state and had already been invaded by its neighbors, so I never understood the reasons for keeping the King out. In any event, if he dies at the same time as OTL Horthy winds up regent anyway for Otto.

If Otto becomes a boy king of Hungary even if he eventually loses the throne when the Communists take over (or even before that since the Nazis loathed the Habsburgs), would he ever give up his claims (which he only did begrudgingly to be allowed back into the country) to Austria? Probably the Habsburgs might be more Hungarian-centered with Otto returning there to live after the fall of communism, his second son for instance I believes makes Hungary his home.
 
If Otto becomes a boy king of Hungary even if he eventually loses the throne when the Communists take over (or even before that since the Nazis loathed the Habsburgs), would he ever give up his claims (which he only did begrudgingly to be allowed back into the country) to Austria? Probably the Habsburgs might be more Hungarian-centered with Otto returning there to live after the fall of communism, his second son for instance I believes makes Hungary his home.

The PoD is after the communists are defeated, in 1921 when Karl/Karolyi tried to recover the throne multiple times.
 
The PoD is after the communists are defeated, in 1921 when Karl/Karolyi tried to recover the throne multiple times.

I was talking about the communist takeover post-WWII. Presumably Otto would have to flee and would be an exiled king ala Simeon of Bulgaria or Michael of Romania until the fall of the Iron Curtain.
 
Was the OP playing Hearts of Iron 4 recently? Because that's an option to have as Hungary: restore the Hapsburgs to the throne (but with Otto instead of Karl) and try to rebuild the Austro-Hungarian Empire, only with the Hungarian half in charge this time.

I personally had my own alt-history scenario where Horthy makes a deal with Otto to make him King of Hungary on the condition he gets public support first; then after WWII Otto suggests to Churchill the formation of a "Danubian Federation" with Austria during the negotiations for partitioning Germany. Stalin objects to this, but after some (rather ugly) negotiations, the newly-reformed Austria-Hungary gets a communist government, but Otto remains on the throne as a mere figurehead while Horthy is thrown out altogether, and the entire country becomes a demilitarized zone with no standing army along with neither Western nor Soviet forces allowed to enter.

Absurd, yes, but that's what I was going for anyways, since Hungary's situation during the inter-War period was already absurd enough, being a landlocked kingdom-without-a-king led by an admiral, and later during the War allied with neighbors it had territorial claims on.
 
Károly, not Karolyi to be precise (Károlyi was the surname of a noble family with a bunch of politicians among them).

There was some talk about restoring Otto in Austria in the 1930s and Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia apparently feared their people would want to rejoin a recreated monarchy. So maybe some kind of restoration wasn't totally unrealistic. Maybe if Zita died instead of Karl? She was supposed to be highly unpopular.
 
Was the OP playing Hearts of Iron 4 recently? Because that's an option to have as Hungary: restore the Hapsburgs to the throne (but with Otto instead of Karl) and try to rebuild the Austro-Hungarian Empire, only with the Hungarian half in charge this time.

Nope, the PoD is 1921 with Karl, while HOI4 allows with Otto in 1936.

Maybe if Zita died instead of Karl? She was supposed to be highly unpopular.

What do you have in mind on this scenario?
 
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