What if the Germans were able to halt the Allies in Normandy?

Say Hitler wasn't as closed-minded/dogged as he was, and listened to what his generals were telling him.

Allied generals like Monty fumbled also, but then the Germans with closer reinforcements and shorter supply lines could have stopped the British/Canadians at Caen and jeopardised the entire operation.

Had this been the case, would an Allied victory still have been true overall? Or could the Germans even won eventually? Or would the Soviet advance in the East meant VE Day would have been in 1947 instead of 1945?

I believe with the Germans pinned in Europe, they may have lasted out longer, but then the Allies by that time were free to ship supplies, arms from the US, Canada, even the UK and possibly even the British/French colonies in Africa, the Caribbean and India. There was no Battle of the Atlantic at the time, and the true turning point of the war was in Stalingrad.
 
The Soviets fought the vast majority of the German land forces anyway. Even if Overlord is somehow defeated, the Axis are still going to have to keep large garrisons in France to prevent against a repeat. And the Soviets are still making massive gains (especially if Bagration still happens and destroys Army Group Center as OTL). So the Soviets will still roll into Berlin (and without concerns about racing the Western Allies, they will probably advance more slowly and cautiously). The Germans were essentially on the complete strategic defensive basically since Kursk, and that's not going to change. Nor do they have any real capability to halt the continuing Soviet offensives permanently, so the Germans will continue to lose ground (and as they lose ground in the Balkans, they risk their nominal allies turning on them, as OTL).

It just means that the occupation zones post-war will be much farther west than the were OTL.
 
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In June 1944, once the Allies are ashore, only the weather can defeat them in Normandy. The Allies have air supremacy, if the weather is clear, and can interdict German troops moving towards the area. The Allies, if the weather is clear, can reinforce in Normandy at least as fast across the Channel, as German troops driving or trying to move by train with allied planes and French resistance fighters hampering them all the way.
And close to the coast, Allied ships in the Channel can support the Allied armies with naval bombardments.
By June the 17th, 1944, the German generals wanted to pull back from Normandy:
...On June 17, at Margival, near Soissons, Hitler held a conference with Rundstedt and Rommel. His two generals pressed on him strongly the folly of bleeding the German Army to death in Normandy. They urged that before it was destroyed the Seventh Army should make an orderly withdrawal towards the Seine, where, together with the Fifteenth Army, it could fight a defensive but mobile battle with at least some hope of success. But Hitler would not agree. Here, as in Russia and Italy, he demanded that no ground should be given up and all should fight where they stood. The generals were of course right. Hitler's method of fighting to the death at once on all fronts lacked the important element of selection...
The Second World War, Volume 6, page 17. (1954 edition)

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And of course the more that the Germans pile into Normandy (assuming that they can get it there) the less that they have to stop Bagration when the Russians strike in the East, or Dragoon when the Allies land in the South of France, or the general Allied push past Rome and up the Italian peninsula towards the Po basin.
 
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the best that the germans could hope for is that the storm that destroyed the one mullberry harbor comes sooner and destroyes all of them, thoroughly as well. That would seriously slow down operations of the WAllies until new mullberry can be constructed and ferried over or a sufficient harbor can be captured.
 
And of course the more that the Germans pile into Normandy (assuming that they can get it there) the less that they have to stop Bagration when the Russians strike in the East, or Dragoon when the Allies land in the South of France, or the general Allied push past Rome and up the Italian peninsula towards the Po basin.

This. As to the OP's question about the date of VE day, may we mention the obvious, that a Nazi Germany still alive and kicking in the summer of 1945 means nuclear bombs on German cities. The bedrock of the Allied strategy was Germany first, and the nukes were built with Germany in mind.
 
If the Mulberries are wrecked then it's a good thing the British are in the east, it means they'll likely take the brunt of the armour, which they're better prepared for with the Firefly and the Achilles, not to mention towed 17-pounders. Whatever happens though, it's not going to be Dunkirk 2.0.
 
If the Mulberries are wrecked then it's a good thing the British are in the east, it means they'll likely take the brunt of the armour, which they're better prepared for with the Firefly and the Achilles, not to mention towed 17-pounders. Whatever happens though, it's not going to be Dunkirk 2.0.
Allied Air Power will probably interdict any further German Panzer movements as they blast as many German vehicle and train traffic heading towards Normandy....
 
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