What if the Empire of China was sucessful

Here's a scenario that would make a great timeline.

In a alternate 1916, lets say Yuan Shikai manages gains foreign support and investments from Europeans in exchange on joining the war and sending troops to Europe.

After winning the National Protection War, Shikai assured the loyalty of his army by granting titles to his senior officers, promising that they would hold power in the new court. After securing his rule, he promptly dies. His son Yuan Keding becomes emperor, with his close fried, Wang Jingwei becomes Premier, which is the same as a prime minister. After the War, China regains it's former territories from Germany, and defeats most of the Northern Warlords and Tibet. During the Russian Civil War, the Chinese Empire retakes Out Manchuria. During Keding's reign, the Imperial Government successful modernize and industrialize the China in both military and Society, quell most Anti-Imperial opposition in the North, and began preparations on defensives near the Korean border, called the Manchurian Line, or the 'Asian Maginot' due to it being based on the Maginot Line in France.

The New Empire still has problems, like the Kuomintang in the South, still wanting to restore the republic, the impending Japanese Empire interest in becoming the sole Asian superpower, and a small clique of Chinese Communist between the two.

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(This is not a complete map of the world, so ignore everything else except china. This is the best I can do)

Now given the scenario, here's a few questions:
Would the Japanese invade Manchuria still?
Would the Empire of China fall to fascism under Jingwei?
Which Asian power would Hitler pick? The Chinese or the Japanese?
How would the soviets react to the Empire of China
Would the Empire become imperialistic as Japan did?
Would China want Taiwan and Korea back?
Would a Chinese Civil war occur around the 1930s?
If a Second Sino-Japanese war occurs, what would be fighting?
 
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My knowledge regarding China at the start of 20th Century isn't that great...but I don't think it's plausible that european support and sending chinese men to die at a foreign war will ensure a stable reign...
How does he win the National Protection War?

Why would the generals or warlords stay aligned to him?

Perhaps it may be plausible and my lack of knowledge isn't allowing me to see it...but I really feel that Yuan Shikai had no way to keep power once he chose to follow the empire path...
 

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Did you make up Wang Jingwei being friends with Yuan Keding or is that actually true? All reputable sources say that Wang was a republican leftist during that time period.
 
Wouldn’t Mongolia remain in the Empire? It broke away in 1919 iirc.

Also the Communists would not be in central China but probably still part of the KMT coalition.
 
Whaaa-, Russia's far east taken by China?

Just now I saw the map, I really don't believe that possible, this China would barely be able to pull this off...I would think it more possible if Japan pulls it.
Why would Russia control North Karafuto in this scenario if they are basically left without a good pacific port? (Vladivostok)
 
No, Mongolia still breaks off.

But how? IOTL their independence was underwritten by the Soviet Union. In TTL you have the Chinese able to hold Outter Manchuria, something the Soviets value far more than a puppet Mongolia. If they can keep former prime Russian territory, Mongolia would be a cake walk.
 
But how? IOTL their independence was underwritten by the Soviet Union. In TTL you have the Chinese able to hold Outter Manchuria, something the Soviets value far more than a puppet Mongolia. If they can keep former prime Russian territory, Mongolia would be a cake walk.

You know what, you gave me an idea.

In 1921. Roman Von Urgern-Sternberg flee from the Russia to Mongolia to create an army to attack the Soviets. He gains support from the Bogd Khan, if he frees Mongolia from the Chinese. The Chinese, although modernized, lacked heavy artillery ( Keep in mind this before the Chinese fully industrialize, they'll be that in 1925). Due to the Brutal Tactics of the Bloody Baron, the fighting was even. The war continued for 3 years, before the Chinese made peace, but the Chinese manage to retake Outer Manchuria during the Russian Civil War. In 1924, a Mongolian Revolution against the Bogd Khan, who later died. Due to the threat of a Republic or a Communist government rising, Sternberg proclaimed himself Khan and a New Mongol Empire, and manage to ally with the China, arguing that the Soviets with try to start a revolution in both countries. 2 years later, the Revolution is crushed, and due to the power vaccum after Lenin's death, the Soviets couldn't help.

So now Sternberg is leading Mongolia. What will happen now
 
You know what, you gave me an idea.

In 1921. Roman Von Urgern-Sternberg flee from the Russia to Mongolia to create an army to attack the Soviets. He gains support from the Bogd Khan, if he frees Mongolia from the Chinese. The Chinese, although modernized, lacked heavy artillery ( Keep in mind this before the Chinese fully industrialize, they'll be that in 1925). Due to the Brutal Tactics of the Bloody Baron, the fighting was even. The war continued for 3 years, before the Chinese made peace, but the Chinese manage to retake Outer Manchuria during the Russian Civil War. In 1924, a Mongolian Revolution against the Bogd Khan, who later died. Due to the threat of a Republic or a Communist government rising, Sternberg proclaimed himself Khan and a New Mongol Empire, and manage to ally with the China, arguing that the Soviets with try to start a revolution in both countries. 2 years later, the Revolution is crushed, and due to the power vaccum after Lenin's death, the Soviets couldn't help.

So now Sternberg is leading Mongolia. What will happen now
So Yuan Shikai magically was able to stabilize his...empire...

How is China fully industrializing by 1925?

If Sternberg fought AGAINST China using brutal tactics and then he rules Mongolia I don't really believe China would ally with him...

Power vaccum after Lenin's death...well, there won't be one if you don't develop that idea as Stalin would be there.

This all sounds interesting, a new kind of scenario but really it feels so implausible bordering ASB.
How is China (partially) going full restoration in just a pair of years?
 
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